Leave The World Behind - In A Nutshell(Listener Choice)
Marc, Darren and Paul quickly breakdown the 2023 movie Leave The World Behind without spoilers. It was chosen by @JennesseeACT. Then they reveal some behind the scenes facts and trivia. Plus they discuss what would happen if this movie was released 20+ years ago, give you this week's 'Worth A Watch' and reveal next weeks movie choice.
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Speaker A:Hello, and welcome to Movies in a Nutshell with me, Mark Farquhar, myself, Darren.
Speaker B:Horn, and I, Paul Day.
Speaker A:Together, we're here to bring you quick, simple, entertaining breakdowns of movies, whether you've seen them or not.
Speaker C:From timeless classics to hidden gems or the latest blockbusters in cinemas, this is your movie safe space.
Speaker B:But unlike most movie podcasts, we're not a review show.
Speaker B:That means no endless deep dives, no unnecessary opinions, just value for your time.
Speaker A:If it's a movie you've seen, you will probably learn something new.
Speaker A:And if it's a movie you haven't seen yet, we'll help you decide if it's worth your time.
Speaker C:Don't stress if you haven't seen that.
Speaker C:Must watch classic.
Speaker C:We've got you covered with everything you need to know.
Speaker A:Now, there's a moment in every episode where we'll give you the choice.
Speaker A:You can pause the podcast, go and watch the movie, come back and join us as we head into Spoiler city, or you can just come with us for the ride.
Speaker A:So grab some popcorn, settle in, and let's dive into this week's movie.
Speaker A:Okay, so this week's episode is Leave the World behind, chosen by Genesee D.
Speaker A:It's not our choice, it's you guys.
Speaker A:We'll be doing this every month.
Speaker A:The last episode of each month will be chosen by you guys.
Speaker A:We'll put polls out there, we'll put the feelers out.
Speaker A:You guys can send us in your suggestions right then.
Speaker A:So we'll do the diagnostics.
Speaker A:So it's available like we said, on Netflix.
Speaker A: Released in: Speaker A:It was rated 15.
Speaker A:It's 2 hours 20.
Speaker A:The genre is thriller slash sci fi.
Speaker A:There's a few other you could have thrown in there.
Speaker A:It stars Julia Roberts, Kevin Bacon, Ethan Hawke, Mahershala Ali and Maiala.
Speaker A:Directed by Sam Esmail.
Speaker A:Written by.
Speaker A: So it comes from a: Speaker C:Yeah, it was released in Covid, so it did quite well.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Executive producers were Barack and Michelle Obama.
Speaker C:I know.
Speaker C:That's a really.
Speaker C:That's got the Internet going off on some tangents on conspiracy theories.
Speaker A:Well, that'll lead to more in a minute.
Speaker A:When I get to the rest of the stats.
Speaker B:When I was like, oh, I wonder what my facts should be.
Speaker B:And then their names came up in the credits.
Speaker B:I was like, oh, well, there's one of them.
Speaker A:So their production company is called Higher Ground Productions.
Speaker A:So that's where that's come from.
Speaker A:Music by Mac Quayle.
Speaker A:The budget was unavailable because and this.
Speaker A:Well, I think we're going to get this going forward with more modern films.
Speaker A:Doesn't really have the traditional how many people paid to see at the cinema.
Speaker A:That's the box office.
Speaker A:It doesn't really, especially with more different types of production companies.
Speaker A:So what I found was it says Sam Esmail's Leave the World behind has entered Netflix's most popular film list of all time.
Speaker A:The apocalyptic thriller starring Julia Roberts, Ethan Hawke and Mahershala Ali scores 136.3 million views in the first 52 days, placing it on the number eight in the most popular English films, ahead of Glass Onion, Knives Out, Mystery and Extraction.
Speaker A:So there wasn't much information on what it took because it didn't have the traditional.
Speaker A:I don't think it went to like it didn't just go to cinemas for a while and then go to streaming.
Speaker A:It kind of had a premiere and then it went to streaming.
Speaker A:If anyone knows any different, please contact us.
Speaker A:Let us know.
Speaker A:So ratings and reviews.
Speaker A:Interesting.
Speaker A:What do you have you guys looked this up?
Speaker A:Are you gonna guess what you what you think?
Speaker A:So let's go.
Speaker A:We all know Rotten Tomatoes, so let's go.
Speaker A:The critic view of Rotten tomatoes out of 100%, what do you think it got?
Speaker B:I'm going to say it's mixed.
Speaker C:The stir of the bag, it's got to be mixed.
Speaker C:Mark Commode loved it and he's a pretty good critic, pretty good judge of movies.
Speaker C:But I've also seen other people say it doesn't hold up.
Speaker B:It's not going to be everyone's cup of tea.
Speaker A:Definitely it was the critic of it was 76.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:People who like it will really like it, I think and people who just don't get it will be not enjoying themselves.
Speaker B:But that's up to you listeners to go and see what you think.
Speaker A:So the popcorn Amita, which is the user reviews was only 36.
Speaker A:So the critics liked it a lot better than people the general public.
Speaker C:Because I'm really curious as to who the target audience is for this.
Speaker A:That's true.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Who would you aim at?
Speaker A:Everyone.
Speaker A:Yeah, everyone who's has devices and lives their life online.
Speaker A:Really.
Speaker B:It feels like it's a future cult classic maybe like where it's very much set in its time.
Speaker B:Again, this is not spoiling anything because we've already said it's about technology and things, but yeah, maybe it's one of those.
Speaker B: That is it really sets it in: Speaker B:How quaint.
Speaker B:With mobile phones.
Speaker B:Before we had our memory chip.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker B:Google glasses, Flying car.
Speaker B:Hoverboards.
Speaker B:We still haven't got hoverboards, Darren.
Speaker C:Why is it the hoverboard are the last thing that we develop?
Speaker B:I say this every year.
Speaker B: And we're now in: Speaker C:We've literally got, like, AI robots now that you can use as your receptionists.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:They're $150,000.
Speaker C:Where's my Hoverboard?
Speaker B:I want the hoverboard.
Speaker C:That's good.
Speaker C:I'm glad you didn't say you wanted the robotic AI woman.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker B:But if you're listening and.
Speaker C:No, we are looking.
Speaker B:You want to try it?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:We're thinking on the same page there, but also the hoverboard people.
Speaker B:Yes, yes, that too.
Speaker B:So moving along.
Speaker A:Swiftly.
Speaker B:Yeah, swiftly move.
Speaker A:IMDb gave it 6.4 out of 10.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Which is.
Speaker A:It's fair.
Speaker A:Metacritic, the Critic review was 68 and the users was 4.8 out of 10.
Speaker C:I'm curious as to what they didn't like about it, because it's.
Speaker C:I think it's hard to put your finger on.
Speaker A:Well, that brings us on to the reviews, Darren.
Speaker A:I see what you did there.
Speaker A:So, as usual, I get three different kind of different reviews on what I.
Speaker A:Whatever people think of this film.
Speaker A:So, Lillian Crawford of Empire magazine.
Speaker C:Empire's good.
Speaker A:The tension is breathless and well constructed.
Speaker A:But since they begin with a dial at 11, there's nowhere to go throughout.
Speaker A:The film's exhausting 140 minutes.
Speaker C:That's ladies Speaks Facts.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker A:Brian Lowry of CNN.com.
Speaker A:whatever one takes away from it, Leave the World behind should trigger conversations beyond whether it hit to hit the like button.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:By that measure, give Esmail credit for a movie that up, down or sideways makes it hard to look away.
Speaker C:That's a really good point.
Speaker C:I think.
Speaker C:Even if something isn't commercially successful, if you kind of impact the zeitgeist and get people having conversations, that's always good.
Speaker C:That's the whole point of art.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker A:That's success.
Speaker A:Really.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Regardless of, like, even did pull at the box office, it has another life on streaming and obviously it became one of the most popular films ever on Netflix.
Speaker A:So there you go.
Speaker B:It's definitely talkable about.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Talkable about.
Speaker C:You totally sounded like one of those British gas adverts when you worked with the Ardman tortoises.
Speaker B:It's talkable about.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's Turn off.
Speaker C:Turn on an offerble.
Speaker B:It's turned on.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I Am actually a admin character.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:Cool.
Speaker B:I'm happy with that.
Speaker A:Something about you.
Speaker B:Yeah, that's what it is.
Speaker A:And our good friend Peter Travers again, this time writing for ABC News.
Speaker B:Come on, Peter, give us it.
Speaker A:What do you think?
Speaker A:Is it going to be good or bad?
Speaker A:Darren?
Speaker C:He's not going to like it.
Speaker A:Paul.
Speaker B:I don't know, Peter.
Speaker B:He's normally fair.
Speaker B:I think he liked bits of it.
Speaker A:Okay, let's see what he put.
Speaker A:Oh, no, not another doomsday thriller.
Speaker A:Yes, but see how director Sam Esmail, powered by an exceptional all star cast, makes you care about being human while frying your nerves to a frazzle.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker C:He was having a good day that day.
Speaker C:Like, he hit no traffic lights.
Speaker C:His coffee was hot.
Speaker C:He had his sunny.
Speaker B:Well, he loved Wicked as well, so maybe he had his Wicked.
Speaker B:And the car.
Speaker B:And he's singing.
Speaker B:Defying gravity.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker B:He's liking it.
Speaker C:That is indeed your real name.
Speaker B:He's a friend of the show.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:He'll contact us soon.
Speaker A:I'll send him a text.
Speaker A:So I've looked up the synopsis.
Speaker A:I think in the future we'll get you guys to do it.
Speaker A:Once you guys, once we've chosen your film, we'll get in touch and we'll get you guys to send us in your versions of the synopsis.
Speaker A:Nice.
Speaker A:And we'll give you a shout out on the show.
Speaker A:I'm gonna read out the official synopsis first and then we'll have.
Speaker A:We'll have a look at.
Speaker A:Well, we'll probably just do it.
Speaker A:Do it ourselves.
Speaker A:Okay, we'll have a think about it.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:So the synopsis says a family's getaway to a luxurious rental home takes an ominous turn when a cyber attack knocks out their devices and two strangers appear at their door.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's perfect.
Speaker A:Doesn't that doesn't give much away at all, does it?
Speaker A:So this is what I came up with before I'd read that and before I looked anything up after watching it.
Speaker A:I just wrote it straight away.
Speaker A:When a family decides to take a break from city life in a beautiful countryside house, the idyllic setting instantly changes when all devices and communications go offline and two strangers knock at their door claiming to be the owners of the home.
Speaker A:What is this movie about?
Speaker A:How do we break this down for someone who hasn't seen it?
Speaker C:Okay, so what is it about?
Speaker C:It's about how unbelievably awful the human race is.
Speaker C:That's genuinely what it's about.
Speaker A:Or how it can be yeah.
Speaker C:How we all hate each other.
Speaker C:We've been gradually isolating more and more.
Speaker C:And that's also caused by the rise of technology.
Speaker C:You know, you're getting cuddle cafes appear usually in kind of Asia.
Speaker C:But that's going to grow.
Speaker C:Like people are starved for physical affection.
Speaker C:It's.
Speaker C:And.
Speaker C:And we're just seeing that.
Speaker C:And that's kind of really what it's about.
Speaker C:It's how far we've gone and broken out of the village mentality and look out for your neighbor and look out for one another and how competitive we are and how we will screw each other over at the same time.
Speaker C:It's a warning against how reliant we are on technology and how that can just absolutely annihilate our lives.
Speaker C:And it feels in a very real way that this could easily happen.
Speaker A:Yeah, I thought, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:This isn't too far away from reality.
Speaker B:And it feels like we're being careful here because the tension in the film comes from the fact of not knowing about the film.
Speaker B:So trying not to spoil it for you.
Speaker B:That's why we're giving you these themes of what it might be about.
Speaker B:So for me, in a nutshell, see what I did there.
Speaker B:Gotta say, every time, every time it's very much, what if technology goes wrong?
Speaker C:And it goes way deeper than that.
Speaker C:Once you start looking at all the symbolism, there's so many little dicks at the human race.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So the A, B and the C.
Speaker A:So the first sort of three acts, I guess the first act is when they've obviously leave busy lives and they decide to leave that they decide to go for a break.
Speaker A:And then as soon as they get there, they notice things.
Speaker A:Things a bit not as they seem.
Speaker A:And then the people who claim to own the home show up at their door.
Speaker A:And it's pretty much what happens after that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Obviously the technology disappearing, going offline is a big sign that something's.
Speaker A:Something's gone wrong, but they don't know what.
Speaker A:And then it's a combination of these strangers coming make.
Speaker A:And you're already questioning things when everything's not working.
Speaker A:You're like, what's going on here?
Speaker A:Is this something bigger?
Speaker A:Is it just a local power outage?
Speaker A:Or are we talking international conspiracy here?
Speaker A:And then with these strangers come to the door claiming to be the house, it's like, do you take them on face value?
Speaker A:Where do you go from there?
Speaker A:And it's just basically a series of events that lead them to.
Speaker A:Of the film.
Speaker C:It's also kind of hard to spoil it.
Speaker C:Because nothing really happens.
Speaker C:It never.
Speaker C:It never lets you know what's going on.
Speaker C:Like, you bounce around between.
Speaker C:Is it like cyber hackers, is it aliens, Is it whatever?
Speaker C:But none.
Speaker C:No, there's no answers.
Speaker C:There's no spoilers because there's no answers.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's that film about trust, isn't it?
Speaker B:Who.
Speaker B:Who you're trusting in each scene and the way it's played.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's quite an arty film as well.
Speaker B:So I would say it's.
Speaker B:This film is.
Speaker B:If you like your big blockbusters and things like action packed, this is not the film for you.
Speaker B:If you like a bit more of an arty film and talking and character moments and that kind of thing, this is more for you.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And the tension.
Speaker B:And there's a thriller element to it, I suppose, isn't there?
Speaker C:Yeah, it had Night of the Living Dead vibes because those guys are.
Speaker C:There's a race element in that as well.
Speaker C:And these guys are like in a heart, but they're fighting off zombies, but they're still in the heart.
Speaker C:And a little bit of John Carpenter's the Thing as well in terms of that paranoia.
Speaker C:Like, can you trust the people around.
Speaker A:You when the shit hits the fan?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So it is someone's take on what could easily happen in the near future.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And also, if you're a fan of the.
Speaker B:The one that kind of springs to mind just as we're talking about it now is the Spielberg War of the Worlds.
Speaker B:Yeah, sure.
Speaker B:The start of.
Speaker B:It's very kind of normal blockbuster, but then it gets quite personal as it goes on, doesn't it, with Tom Cruise and his family.
Speaker B:And it's that kind of thing I took away from it as well.
Speaker B:So it's.
Speaker B:It's stuff happening on a bigger scale, but you're zoomed in on this very small setting, this intimate family portrait almost.
Speaker A:Okay, right, that brings us on to Spoiler City.
Speaker A:We are about to enter this, dear listener, is the point of the podcast where it's your choice whether to pause.
Speaker A:If you like what you've heard about this film, you feel like you need to go watch it, do so now.
Speaker A:Otherwise head on with us into Spoiler City, where we will.
Speaker A:Won't go out of our way to spoil this film for you, but some opinions and things about the film may come out whilst we talk about it.
Speaker A:So let's head into Spoiler City.
Speaker A:Right, so let's start with what did we miss?
Speaker A:So anything else?
Speaker A:What are your thoughts on this one, Darren?
Speaker C:What did we miss?
Speaker C:There's so much that we missed.
Speaker C:Like, fast, fast amounts.
Speaker C:And what's annoying is I don't think anyone would casually watch it.
Speaker C:Like, like, you know, I'm a film lecturer.
Speaker C:I was watching it and doing my best to kind of track what was going on.
Speaker C:But then once I started researching it, there's tons of stuff going on.
Speaker C:So in terms of symbolism.
Speaker C:So one thing that I really like is there's a movie called Bernard and the Genie, and it's about.
Speaker B:With Lenny Henry.
Speaker C:Yeah, Lenny Henry is a genie.
Speaker C:Rowing.
Speaker B:And Alan Cummins.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:I remember this as a kid.
Speaker C:And there's a bit where Alan Cummings thinks he's getting praise and he's stood in front of the Laughing Cavalier.
Speaker C:And then Rowan Atkinson removes it and changes it for the Scream painting and then fires him.
Speaker C:And I was like, that's so cool.
Speaker C:You've changed the tone of the room just by changing the painting.
Speaker C:They actually do it in this film as well.
Speaker C:So there's a black and white painting in the living room.
Speaker C:Huge.
Speaker C:And it's kind of all black with kind of like white, four white kind of tower images representing possibly the people in the room.
Speaker C:And then gradually it becomes more and more chaotic.
Speaker C:And the ocean picture behind the bed starts off as a fairly calm storm.
Speaker C:And then as the movie goes on, it gets worse, worse and worse.
Speaker C:And it's like the water's rising, you know, that's so cool to do.
Speaker C:But no one's going to spot that stuff.
Speaker B:I confess, I didn't spot any of that stuff till I was researching my top five facts.
Speaker B:That was one of the things that was on there.
Speaker B:And I was like, that completely passed.
Speaker A:Me by as well.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:I love the fact that she.
Speaker C:The girl Rose says she quotes Aaron Sorkin.
Speaker C:So I was like, one of the finest writers and creators, like, ever.
Speaker C:He did shows like the West Wing and Newsroom.
Speaker C:Just phenomenal.
Speaker C:And she is quite liked that.
Speaker C:The Aaron Sorkin episodes of the West Wing are superb.
Speaker C:And it goes downhill because he is a whole big story.
Speaker B:I'm still on the Aaron ones, so I'm still good.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Anyway, she.
Speaker C:And she tells that whole story about that is quoted in that, where she says, there's someone's waiting for God to save them.
Speaker C:And, like, there's a flood.
Speaker C:And then like a dinghy comes.
Speaker C:He's like, hey, I'll come and save you.
Speaker C:So, no, I'm going to be fine.
Speaker C:And say, hey, helicopters here.
Speaker C:He's like, no, I'm going to be fine.
Speaker C:And he dies and goes to heaven.
Speaker C:It's like, God, why don't you save me?
Speaker C:So what are you talking about?
Speaker C:I sent you all this help.
Speaker C:And then she says, I'm done waiting.
Speaker C:And I think there's an element of almost like divinity in this.
Speaker C:In that she's the one who's paying attention to the deers.
Speaker C:The deers are kind of symbolizing that you need to become a herd to survive this.
Speaker C:You need.
Speaker C:You can't be isolationist.
Speaker C:You need to be together.
Speaker C:And they kind of almost like, heard the people.
Speaker C:Like, they're encouraging her to, like, follow them.
Speaker C:And at one point, they block some of the other.
Speaker A:Well, they do say they're trying to tell us something.
Speaker C:Yeah, totally.
Speaker A:I don't know what it is, but.
Speaker C:But she's the only one that listens.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then she ends up at the Thorne's bunker.
Speaker C:And the thorns job is to protect the rose.
Speaker B:Symbolism.
Speaker C:And then she finds the friends episodes that she's been obsessed with for the whole film.
Speaker C:And then it ends with the theme song.
Speaker C:I'll be there for you.
Speaker C:So is that divinity or God saying you're like, hey, I'll be there for you.
Speaker C:Just trust me.
Speaker C:I will look after you, or.
Speaker C:I'm reading way too much into this.
Speaker B:I think that's the beauty of this film.
Speaker B:I think it is working on.
Speaker B:On that symbolism stuff, Especially when I started researching it and seeing that the paintings were changing and all the things I'd missed.
Speaker B:But there's also that other level of.
Speaker B:For me, it was very much about trust and faith in people.
Speaker B:And Julia Roberts character, right at the start, she's like, I fucking hate people.
Speaker B:So you straight out the box, you go, okay, she doesn't like people very much.
Speaker B:And then her character development as you go through the film is her starting to trust people.
Speaker B:And that's kind of her character arc.
Speaker B:It's a disaster film, but on such a small scale that you're just trapped in this house.
Speaker B:So the tension on it is.
Speaker B:Is really, really good.
Speaker C:I thought also, like, the fact that Rose had a NASA top on, which is like a symbol of.
Speaker C:Is that the greatest kind of pinnacle of America?
Speaker C:And like, when they kind of went to the moon and it's hopeful and it's.
Speaker C:There's something.
Speaker A:Kept going to shots of a satellite in space.
Speaker C:It did.
Speaker C:That was really annoying.
Speaker A:That was when I noticed.
Speaker A:I was like, oh, she's got NASA on space.
Speaker C:But then the guy forgotten his name, her brother had.
Speaker C:It wasn't quite a John Carpenter's they live.
Speaker C:But it was the Obey T shirt.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Where basically I knew I'd seen that.
Speaker A:See, I didn't know what it was, but I knew I'd seen that somewhere before.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So it's basically they on giant compasses.
Speaker C:They live.
Speaker C:This is going to sound dumb, but he puts his special sunglasses on and he can see what the meaning is all around him.
Speaker C:So, like, money, it says, this is your God.
Speaker C:And like, an advertisement will be like, you know, buy this or Obey, and all that kind of nonsense.
Speaker C:It's part of our program, so that was kind of cool.
Speaker C:I like that.
Speaker C:If you've got any things.
Speaker C:I mean, I've got more.
Speaker C:I don't want to take them all.
Speaker C:If you've got.
Speaker A:This is my.
Speaker A:This is one of my favorite parts of this because I just sit here and let you two talk.
Speaker B:Well, my main takeaway, of course I'm going to say this is.
Speaker B:It just showed how important physical media is to help with.
Speaker A:I've written.
Speaker A:That is one of my notes here.
Speaker A:When she found the wall of DVDs, I was like, oh, Paul's gonna love this.
Speaker B:I approved of this very much.
Speaker B:Like, oh, that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker B:And then she popped it in the player and obviously the menu screen comes up.
Speaker B:And I'm thinking, yeah, to me, that's normal because I obviously watch most of my stuff on tv.
Speaker A:Is she too young to know?
Speaker A:It's like, what do I do now?
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, she was on it, though.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I did enjoy all the Friends references because I love Friends.
Speaker B:And of course, had that moment where I'm like, oh, my word.
Speaker B:Julia Roberts was in Friends and dated Matthew Perry.
Speaker C:Oh, nice.
Speaker B:That whole little thing there.
Speaker B:I was, like, kind of strange.
Speaker B:Well, and then also, Kevin Bacon and Julia Roberts were in flatliners together.
Speaker B:So I was like, oh, oh, seven degrees of Kevin Bacon going on.
Speaker B:But overall, it felt like that disaster film that you would normally get from Ronald Emmerich where you would be in the city blowing up.
Speaker B:But it's not from the sea, it's from the outskirts.
Speaker B:And that's what made me think of the Spielberg or the world where it's very much all through Tom Cruise's character, but the tension of it.
Speaker B:So my only.
Speaker B:My bits were kind of technical ones, Darren, which you might come on to as well.
Speaker B:But I really like the clever editing on shots.
Speaker B:There was one shot which was so subtle, and I kind of.
Speaker B:I made a note on it where they're inside the house with the couple talking, and then the camera kind of moves outside to the window, but it did it so seamlessly.
Speaker B:I'm like, how have they done that?
Speaker B:Like, where's the set wall?
Speaker C:Yeah, they did that a few times.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And there was just some really clever shots and editing.
Speaker A:Some good thought gone into how to just break the mold of some normal shots.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:To kind of create that tension.
Speaker B:And the only other big takeaway.
Speaker B:And then I'm going to let Darren go for it because I know his symbolism is going to be amazing on this one.
Speaker B:But my only other thing was the music track and everything and the sound.
Speaker B:I've got a fairly good surround sound system and some of the surround sound effects and everything on it were really, really good.
Speaker B:Whether it was people knocking on doors in the corner of my room, like, oh, I thought that was in my room.
Speaker B:But also the music track on the surround sound.
Speaker B:It was like jumping between back speakers.
Speaker B:My right and left rear speakers were like jumping between the two.
Speaker B:So.
Speaker B:Ye.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Lots of technical things that I was kind of appreciating in the tension of the.
Speaker B:Of the film, but symbolism.
Speaker B:Darren, go for it.
Speaker A:Before.
Speaker A:Before you.
Speaker A:I've just got short thing to say on this.
Speaker A:The first one of the major things I noticed was the second Kevin Bacon entered into the film, the music changed, the tone just shifted.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Because obviously they were going on holiday.
Speaker A:Everything was great.
Speaker A:He saw her and she clocked him loading up like as if some apocalypse was coming.
Speaker A:And the music changed.
Speaker A:And I don't know if you guys noticed, but when they went to the beach before the boat started coming, the music didn't quite fit the scene.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Attention to it.
Speaker A:Even though they're supposed to be on holiday having the time of their life.
Speaker A:And I just.
Speaker A:It was.
Speaker A:I really enjoyed that, like, foreboding.
Speaker A:Because if I had just the normal music, I wouldn't be sort of invested yet.
Speaker A:But I knew some.
Speaker A:It made me think something's happened.
Speaker A:So something's changed.
Speaker A:Because the tone of this music doesn't fit what I'm watching.
Speaker A:And I like that.
Speaker A:That's not.
Speaker A:That's unusual.
Speaker A:I find nice.
Speaker C:When Rose goes to that bunker, she finds all the store of food.
Speaker C:Tons of the food in there was problematic.
Speaker C:So there's like Aunt Mimer, Uncle Ben, Cream Wheat, which all used to have problematic stereotypical representations of African Americans in the same way that our marmalade used to, didn't it?
Speaker B:Yeah, I think so.
Speaker B:Was that marmalade?
Speaker B:Yeah, I think you're right.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Then they've got like Indian Head, Cornmeal they had these juices.
Speaker C:It was like Indian orange and Chinese cherry drinks, but it had really stereotypical racist kind of illustrations on them.
Speaker C:And then there's Barilla pasta.
Speaker C:And apparently their CEO has made quite homophobic comments.
Speaker C:So I just think it's like this.
Speaker C:This kind of, what you call it, a cupboard or pantry or whatever full of foods that have been specifically chosen, and everyone is problematic.
Speaker C:And it's just kind of like, how bad are we?
Speaker C:But there's more stuff.
Speaker C:Honestly, people in the Internet, attention to detail.
Speaker C:Hey, so this chip that crashes is called the White Lion.
Speaker C:And that was the name of the first ship that brought slaves to the English colony of Virginia.
Speaker C:That's not a coincidence.
Speaker C:That's just like, we are bad.
Speaker C:We are.
Speaker C:We are.
Speaker C:We are terrible to each other.
Speaker C: The car radio is tuned to: Speaker B:Did you not get any of these?
Speaker C:We were watching different movies.
Speaker B:I didn't either.
Speaker A:That's next level.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And then there was just some cool color symbolism, like blue.
Speaker C:It was really jarring how blue the house was at the beginning.
Speaker C:And I was, ugh.
Speaker C:And then they were wearing blue, so they kind of disappeared into it.
Speaker A:I never noticed that either.
Speaker B:Oh, I noticed that one.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like, blue is good.
Speaker C:The house is blue.
Speaker C:The car is blue.
Speaker C:The clothes are blue.
Speaker C:Blue is all cheap.
Speaker A:Okay, you're making me feel stupid now, Darren.
Speaker C:Whereas.
Speaker A:Stop.
Speaker C:Whereas red is bad, and the tanker is red.
Speaker C:The leaflets are red.
Speaker C:The bunker's front door is red.
Speaker C:She goes, I think, upstairs, and that's red.
Speaker C:And then she goes downstairs, and it's blue.
Speaker C:Where all this stuff is.
Speaker B:The irony is, when I.
Speaker B:When I was watching this, I felt like, you know what?
Speaker B:This is one of them films you're going to watch once and not again.
Speaker B:And I thought that most of the way through, and you've made.
Speaker A:You've already made me want to watch it.
Speaker B:By the time I got to the end, I'm like, you know what?
Speaker B:I do want to see this again.
Speaker B:And now I really want to see it again.
Speaker B:Just to see all this hidden stuff.
Speaker C:At one point, they do.
Speaker C:Like, I think it's an image of the camera.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker C:The images.
Speaker C:It's like the map of America and it's kind of pixelated.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:There's actually a QR code on it.
Speaker C:Did you see that again?
Speaker B:I didn't know until I started reading about it.
Speaker C:And if you scan that QR code, it takes you to, like, a map area of Lake Shorey, which is an amusement park in America that's now abandoned, but was built on a Native American burial ground, which is a horror movie just waiting.
Speaker C:And loads of kids died there.
Speaker A:Wow, this is insane.
Speaker B:Death.
Speaker A:This is what packed Phil.
Speaker B:We're in spoiler zone now, kids.
Speaker A:This is the longest.
Speaker A:What did we miss so far?
Speaker C:I also think there's a point where Ethan Hawke says this, and he says it in a really, I think, kind of a clunky way where he's like, oh, it's interesting.
Speaker C:One of my ex students wants me to write the forward to her book.
Speaker C:She's written this book about how media is an escape, but also a reflection of what's going on in the real world.
Speaker C:That's basically what this movie is.
Speaker C:You know, it's like, I like that line.
Speaker C:It's not in this movie, I've heard it elsewhere, that we art tells lies in order to tell the truth.
Speaker C:And that's this kind of movie.
Speaker C:Like we're telling this fictional tale, but it's also telling the truth.
Speaker B:You know, there was that bit as well where the sisters.
Speaker B:No, well, the brother and the sister.
Speaker B:She's obsessed with friends.
Speaker B:And the brother's like, why do you care so much?
Speaker B:And she's just like, I really like friends.
Speaker B:It makes me feel good.
Speaker B:And he's like, well, who the hell gives a shit in this kind of what's going on?
Speaker B:And she had a point around, well, isn't this when we need it more than ever?
Speaker B:And I thought, yeah, this is true.
Speaker B:Maybe sometimes people forget that sometimes the art is there to.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's probably the reason they chose Friends to be the film.
Speaker A:Because it's about, like, sticking together, sticking together, trying times.
Speaker C:But then the other girl says, Friends is nostalgic for time that didn't exist.
Speaker C:So it's always.
Speaker C:It's almost like we all even now wish we were at a period where things were better.
Speaker A:But it's not nostalgic for her because she's experienced it for the first time, the young girl.
Speaker C:Yeah, but I mean, that period of the 90s, was it actually like that?
Speaker C:Was that our fever dream of how good it was?
Speaker B:I wonder why that's.
Speaker B:I wonder if that's why they put in the line where she's like, oh, dad, can you take me to Central Perk in, yeah, New York?
Speaker B:And he's like, it's a film set, doesn't exist.
Speaker B:I wonder if that's why that was in earlier maybe.
Speaker C:Yeah, totally.
Speaker C:Because, like, when we think about the 80s, like movies, 80s is completely different it was all Tupperware and yellow and brown.
Speaker B:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:At times my mum had all of those.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:The only other thing I caught, which probably no one else spotted, is Ruth doesn't shave her armpits.
Speaker C:Did you see that?
Speaker C:Which I think thought was quite a modern thing.
Speaker C:It kind of suggests that maybe she's quite kind of liberal or hippie ish or something.
Speaker C:She also had a 96 tattoo, but I don't know what that means.
Speaker C:But it's there for a reason, you know.
Speaker A:Anything else?
Speaker B:The other thing.
Speaker B:Oh, I meant to say this in the pre book, but never mind.
Speaker B:You've got this far now, listener.
Speaker B:It kind of had Lost vibes for me in the end.
Speaker B:So where there's this kind of mystery box thinking, oh, who's this?
Speaker B:And who do you trust?
Speaker B:Who do you know?
Speaker B:So I was going to say, if people like Lost and that kind of thing, maybe they'd enjoy that.
Speaker B:But again, you're so far into the spoilers now, I assume you may have seen this film.
Speaker B:So, yeah, that mistrust that ran through it and kind of artsy.
Speaker B:And I really like Ethan Hawke and stuff as well.
Speaker B:He always.
Speaker B:All of the cast brought a very natural kind of delivery of stuff.
Speaker B:That's normally why I like Ethan Hawke is obviously the Before Sunset trilogy and that kind of thing.
Speaker B:In fact, at times I'm like, oh, my God, it's Jesse from Before Sunset, isn't it?
Speaker B:It's like, is this the next chapter?
Speaker B:Is this the part four?
Speaker C:But yeah, it's weird because when Kevin Bacon turned up, I hoped he was his character from Tremors.
Speaker B:That would have been helpful.
Speaker C:Yeah, the shotgun, exactly right.
Speaker C:He had to pick up.
Speaker B:That could have been helpful for the.
Speaker B:For the finale, couldn't it?
Speaker A:But there was.
Speaker A:There was one scene, they all felt.
Speaker B:Very real in it.
Speaker A:There was one scene where.
Speaker A:I don't know if they did it on purpose, where something was like, it went to space and something was coming up and I thought it was gonna be a spaceship, but it was just the moon.
Speaker C:Yeah, totally.
Speaker A:And I think they were just making us think, what.
Speaker A:What's going on here?
Speaker C:That's an interesting point as well, because.
Speaker C:Did you guys know about the image?
Speaker C:The pale blue dot?
Speaker C:Have you seen that?
Speaker C:It's like the first image we had of Earth.
Speaker C:I can't remember what NASA mission it was, but somebody said, I don't know if it was to the moon or orbit, but someone said, turn the camera around, like, let's see what the Earth looks like.
Speaker C:And you just see The Earth, you know, obviously we're hurting through space at a vast amount of speed, but it's just a tiny blue marble in infinite looks.
Speaker C:So insignificant and we could so close to destruction.
Speaker C:I think Carl Sagan does this whole kind of speech about it.
Speaker C:It's beautiful.
Speaker C:But I was watching that and I was like, are you thinking, are you basically saying how vulnerable the planet is and we need to get on, we all need to be looking out for each other and that we, we can destroy this planet and we're heading in.
Speaker A:That direction without any help.
Speaker C:But that also bugged me, that opening, because it started to feel like a sci fi film and then it wasn't really a sci fi film.
Speaker A:No.
Speaker A:But it was just messing with our mind in terms of what's really going on, what's behind this.
Speaker C:Also, it had kind of George Carlin, Bill Hicks vibes as well, in terms of when they would talk about kind of friends and escapism and escaping into that.
Speaker C:And I think it's Bill Hicks who has this whole bit where he's like, go to sleep, go to sleep, America.
Speaker C:Here's another season of American Gladiators.
Speaker C:Just.
Speaker C:And it's the whole Roman kind of games thing, isn't it?
Speaker C:Like we're going to distract the masses with gladiator fights and lions killings and stuff, as long as they don't challenge what the politicians are doing, you know?
Speaker B:And the other guy, I think, even though I'm probably going to say Mahersha Ali.
Speaker B:Am I saying that right?
Speaker B:He was so good at kind of playing that tension because there's a moment where he goes to the draw to get the money and there's the gun in there.
Speaker A:Yeah, he did a good job of.
Speaker A:You didn't know if he was good or bad?
Speaker B:No, but for a long time he seemed friendly still.
Speaker B:So it's like, I still think, I.
Speaker C:Still think he might be bad because he lies.
Speaker C:Like, she says, oh, can I see your id?
Speaker C:And he's like, oh, in all the commotion, I left it at the office at the concert.
Speaker C:And she was like, no, the commotion started on the way when you were in the car.
Speaker C:That doesn't.
Speaker C:And then it moves on.
Speaker B:I know Julia Roberts was on it at that point.
Speaker B:I'm like, oh, she's gone into Brockovich mode.
Speaker C:That bugged me.
Speaker C:Like, she's perfectly reasonable in her hesitancy to let these people in the house.
Speaker C:Like, that's a perfectly reasonable response.
Speaker C:And the way she was made out to seemed like, yeah, I was just like, no, no, she's got kids in the house.
Speaker C:Loads of.
Speaker C:Every character was unlikable and it all makes stupid decisions.
Speaker B:But the, the end, the end was kind of a choice, wasn't it?
Speaker B:Where it, it ends in that abrupt way with the friends thing.
Speaker B:I never even thought of what you said before about it.
Speaker B:I'll be there for you.
Speaker B:But it was.
Speaker B:I.
Speaker B:I found it at first it was a bit abrupt.
Speaker B:I'm like, really?
Speaker B:Is that it?
Speaker A:Well, that's what I was going to say.
Speaker A:It's kind of the elephant in the room.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:But the, the more I thought about it, the more I'm like, I kind of like that because it's left you to piece it together.
Speaker B:She's going to find the bike outside the house.
Speaker B:So they're going to get there, they're heading to the house.
Speaker B:So it's obvious they're all going to end up in this bunker and everything's kicking off.
Speaker B:But it's let you piece it together.
Speaker A:I realize doing the review, looking at the reviews, I'll just.
Speaker A:First, it just shows you loads of people who've commented on the socials and on the IMDb page, and I think that's part of the reason why they scored so lowly with the users, is because people don't like the fact that it sort of ended so abruptly and left you to your imagination.
Speaker A:So I've put here, is that brilliant?
Speaker A:Is that bad or is it brilliant?
Speaker C:I saw a YouTube commentator underneath the video who said, the reason it stops there is because we're living the rest of the movie in reality.
Speaker B:I like that.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But it goes against all typical, like, okay, we've been through this, we've come to the end of it.
Speaker A:Let's have a happy ending.
Speaker C:It depends what you mean, though.
Speaker C:It depends who the hero is.
Speaker C:Like, if she's the hero and her quest was to find the holy grail of the final episode of Friends, she fulfilled her quest.
Speaker C:So as far as she's concerned, everything else that's going on is above her pay grade.
Speaker B:Physical media.
Speaker A:All I'm saying is when I was looking at the.
Speaker A:I started looking at any reviews.
Speaker A:Everyone was on this film for just ending the way it did.
Speaker A:I don't know if people didn't understand or they just weren't used to that.
Speaker A:Like, you're not being spooned for the end of it.
Speaker B:Yeah, jazz me at first, but the more I thought about it, the more I'm like, no, I kind of like.
Speaker A:That they've given you all the ingredients of, like, this is what's been found.
Speaker A:This is what's been discovered.
Speaker A:These people have taken this journey.
Speaker A:There is this point.
Speaker A:This is clearly what's how it's going to end.
Speaker A:But we're so.
Speaker A:We're just going to end it here.
Speaker A:So I kind of enjoyed that.
Speaker A:It did make me make wonder about it, but that's good.
Speaker A:I wasn't left for.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:I kind of could have predicted it because you couldn't.
Speaker C:This also had a kind of like a nightmare or dream feel to it because it was kind of trippy in places like obviously the deer's turning up.
Speaker C:It was like quite a dream thing.
Speaker C:But the main dream thing is him pulling out his teeth.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, right.
Speaker C:That was.
Speaker C:It was like.
Speaker C:Because that's it.
Speaker C:That's a common nightmare where your teeth are falling out, you know.
Speaker C:And in the movie it tries to say, oh, it's because of the sound, or it's because he got bit by a tick or whatever.
Speaker C:It's not really.
Speaker C:That's never really explained either.
Speaker C:And then it's just really.
Speaker C:It's almost like, you know, it's like every scene's just kind of slotted together randomly.
Speaker C:It feels just very weird.
Speaker A:Let's hear what Paul has found out about Leave the World Behind.
Speaker B:So a lot of the facts.
Speaker B:Darren said, the symbolism things, so a lot of them are.
Speaker B:They're the facts I was going through, but there's a few other ones.
Speaker B:So here's some bonus facts for you on top of them once.
Speaker B:So Kevin Bacon's character is a very detailed Prepper.
Speaker B:It's on IMDb, so it must be true.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:He has a willow tree growing in his yard.
Speaker B:So that I can't say this word, but a certain kind of acid, it's synthesized from Willow Burke.
Speaker C:It makes aspirin.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker B:I still can't say this word.
Speaker B:Ace to cellatic acid.
Speaker B:There you go.
Speaker B:Okay, another fact.
Speaker B:Amanda's laptop and the emergency kits that Danny buys at the store are made by E Corp, a fictional corporation that was central to the plot of the previous project by writer director Sam esmail.
Speaker B:The series Mr.
Speaker B:Robot, a book beach towel, written by another Mr.
Speaker B:Robot character, Irvin, also appears.
Speaker B:I haven't seen Mr.
Speaker B:Robot.
Speaker A:I have.
Speaker B:Denzel Washington was originally cast to play the part now played by Maher gh.
Speaker B:Thank you.
Speaker B:But he must have dropped out.
Speaker B:I don't know whether he had other projects or something, but apparently originally it was him, Julia Roberts and the Obamas who were kind of set up to making it because Julia Roberts is One of the producers as well.
Speaker B:And final one.
Speaker B: e rights to the novel in July: Speaker B:And like I just said, Julia Roberts and Denzel Washington were originally set to star and produce it.
Speaker B:So Denzel was going to produce it as well.
Speaker B:But obviously scheduling or something must have got in the way and.
Speaker B:But I think the other guy did a fantastic job as well.
Speaker A:He did.
Speaker B:So there you go.
Speaker A:Okay, that was Paul's facts.
Speaker A:Let's move on to takeaways before we move on to the final section.
Speaker A:Darren, what have you got for this one?
Speaker C:I didn't like this film.
Speaker B:It's always surprising when he does decide.
Speaker B:You don't know which way he's gonna.
Speaker C:And it angered me from very early on.
Speaker C:So there's a lot that I don't like with it.
Speaker C:And so the main thing is I hate that opening when it's in like the Blue House.
Speaker C:I thought that's a bit over the top.
Speaker C:And I don't really believe these characters was interesting.
Speaker A:I never picked up on that at all.
Speaker C:It was just awkward.
Speaker C:But Julie Roberts is up and she's packing and she's like, I've decided we're going to go on a trip.
Speaker C:We're doing this, doing this.
Speaker C:And we never really learn anything about these characters.
Speaker C:Backstories.
Speaker C:There's nothing redeeming about them.
Speaker C:It's almost like they're just two dimensional representations of how we all don't get on with each other.
Speaker A:There was a bit later where she asks, what do you guys do?
Speaker A:Yeah, just tell what they do.
Speaker A:But other than that.
Speaker A:Yeah, you're right.
Speaker C:And so that was annoying.
Speaker C:And then there's a bit where Julia Roberts walks through the house and the camera is like upside down at one point.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:And like, so she's like.
Speaker C:If I'd shown at my cinema when we had 35 mil, I would have run upstairs to the projectionist and being like, you freaking glued.
Speaker B:Because the wrong spin.
Speaker C:The reel was kind of upside down together.
Speaker C:Like, which he did do once during Clash of the Titans.
Speaker B:Oh, no way.
Speaker C:Yeah, he did.
Speaker B:Oh, man.
Speaker C:Thankfully we caught it in like a staff show, so that bugged me.
Speaker C:Then there's a bit where the daughter is gone to wake up.
Speaker C:Julia Roberts character.
Speaker C:And she sat on her chest in bed with a glass of water.
Speaker C:But it's framed so she's coming out of the left hand side of the frame.
Speaker C:So the glass of water is horizontal and would be spilling, you know.
Speaker A:Okay, I'm Definitely.
Speaker A:Watching this film again, we've established that.
Speaker C:The camera movements are just.
Speaker C:It bounces between trying to be.
Speaker C:They would call it, like, masturbatory.
Speaker C:It's like, hey, look at me.
Speaker C:Aren't I great?
Speaker C:And Brian De Palma does it quite a bit, but not to this extent.
Speaker C:But then it bounces between, like, Edgar Wright style, like whip pans.
Speaker C:I'm like, who directed this?
Speaker C:It's like.
Speaker C:It's like you've asked AI to be like, what does a director do now make this film?
Speaker C:And it's just been like, oh, I do De Palma here.
Speaker C:I'll do Scorsese here.
Speaker C:I'll do some.
Speaker C:I do Wesanne Anderson here.
Speaker C:No bad.
Speaker A:So, yeah, mix your directing styles.
Speaker C:I hated the bit.
Speaker C:Like, at one point, for no reason, she's like, oh, that's a Starbucks.
Speaker C:Then it cuts to them inside with her with a big cup of Starbucks in front of her.
Speaker B:I just figured that was the commercialism commercial.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker B:But it was a bit on the nose.
Speaker A:It could be.
Speaker A:Maybe it's just highlighting parts of the film where everything's going smoothly and nicely before it all turns.
Speaker C:Also, this whole scene, this whole scene with the oil tanker coming to the beach, which you think is going to be dramatic, and then everyone just stands up and jogs to the left and then the oil tanker hits the sand.
Speaker C:It just stops.
Speaker C:But also, this is what also bugs me because it makes it feel like it's a ghost ship because it's not hitting its horn or anything.
Speaker C:And there's no one.
Speaker C:We never see human beings on it.
Speaker C:And yeah, and that bug, that's the other thing that bugged me is about genre.
Speaker C:Starts with space.
Speaker C:So you think, oh, this is going to be sci fi.
Speaker C:This is going to be aliens.
Speaker C:Then it's like a road trip, like disaster movie, kind of like you were saying.
Speaker C:Then it's when the.
Speaker C:The other two turn up.
Speaker C:It's like a thriller slash horror movie.
Speaker C:And it's about kind of racial tensions.
Speaker C:And then it's.
Speaker C:Yeah, it doesn't know what it is.
Speaker C:That tension is.
Speaker C:It was played well.
Speaker C:But I also like the fact that the girl Ruth was also had her own prejudices because she said something like, you know, if the world's going to hell, trust should be given out carefully, especially with white people.
Speaker C:And I was, okay, so you don't trust white people.
Speaker C:Julia Roberts is wary about black people.
Speaker C:It's, you know, it's.
Speaker C:I mean, it's.
Speaker C:It's sad, but I think that's everything I got.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:I really Enjoyed it.
Speaker A:Each to their own.
Speaker A:Yeah, it had me gripped like not knowing what was coming, not always behind everything kept me invested in this film.
Speaker A:Obviously I watch films with a different lens than you do, Darren, so that's fine.
Speaker A:That's what, that's what you do.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, totally.
Speaker A:I keep it more sort of drawn back view.
Speaker A:So I'm just trying to take the whole thing in, trying to experience it as the director and the people who've made the film have meant it to be.
Speaker A:I try not to analyze it too much, but I do afterwards then I'll think about it.
Speaker A:But yeah, I really enjoyed it.
Speaker A:I was perplexed by the end at first, but then when I thought about, I was like, I actually like that.
Speaker A:It's not traditional.
Speaker A:It breaks the mold, makes you think and it's kind of given you.
Speaker A:It's laid everything out for you.
Speaker A:Here's what's gonna happen.
Speaker A:We're just gonna end it here.
Speaker A:And I was.
Speaker A:I was happy with that.
Speaker A:I really enjoyed it.
Speaker A:What you, Paul?
Speaker B:I'm somewhere in the middle, to be honest.
Speaker B:Yeah, I probably maybe didn't enjoy it quite as much as you did, but I didn't hate it either like Darren did.
Speaker B:Yeah, somewhere in the middle.
Speaker B:There's definitely bits of it that I really enjoyed.
Speaker B:There's some of the technical stuff.
Speaker B:Like I say the surround sound was great experience.
Speaker B:Especially what they were doing was the sound effects, the music and things.
Speaker B:So that drew me right into it and.
Speaker B:And it drew me into it rather than making me think, oh, look at them being fancy.
Speaker B:But yeah, then there's bits in the film where I can't quite put my finger on.
Speaker B:I'm like, I don't get this film either.
Speaker B:So I get some of Darren's points as well.
Speaker B:Overall, enjoyed it.
Speaker B:And like I said before, it's probably not one I'm gonna watch a lot.
Speaker B:I may watch it once more just to get some of the.
Speaker B:The things we've chatted about today, just out of interest.
Speaker C:But I'm also.
Speaker C:Yeah, I like.
Speaker C:I watch movies to kind of give me hope.
Speaker C:So I don't.
Speaker C:I respond badly to movies when they're kind of depressing or they're telling me that.
Speaker C:And this is what this film's like.
Speaker C:It's like you're in late stage capitalism.
Speaker C:Something is going which is what we kind of all are feeling right now.
Speaker C:There's this study done, I think come if it was Russia or Germany where basically they knew their country was collapsing and the government knew it, but they couldn't do anything.
Speaker C:So everyone just won about their business with their, like, hands over their eyes and ears, just being like, la, la, la, Everything's gonna be fine.
Speaker C:And that feels like where we are now, looking around at the earth and society and stuff.
Speaker C:So it's kind of like, it's like this is late stage capitalism.
Speaker C:Everything's about to be screwed in the near future, probably within the next five years.
Speaker C:The human race is kind of washed up.
Speaker C:Your time is done.
Speaker C:We've got like, I love all these actors, but they're washed up.
Speaker C:They're past their prime.
Speaker C:Julia Roberts, Ethan Hawke, Kevin Bacon, they're kind of.
Speaker C:They're the old guard.
Speaker C:They're the people who assume be gone.
Speaker C:You know, they like the young actors.
Speaker C:The young actors aren't named actors.
Speaker C:Like, we don't know who they are.
Speaker C:There's no vibrancy there.
Speaker C:And maybe that's what we're saying.
Speaker C:Like, do we really know the new generation?
Speaker C:How are they going to.
Speaker C:How are they going to fix the mess that we've made, you know?
Speaker B:Yeah, well, there's that line they kept saying, like, we're going to be okay, right?
Speaker B:And I think a few of them said, oh, we're gonna be okay.
Speaker B:Right?
Speaker B:And they're like, it definitely made me think a bit.
Speaker B:I had some takeaways.
Speaker B:There was bits in it, I'm like.
Speaker B:And then there was other bits.
Speaker B:I'm like, you know, I love Friends, so the fact they reference Friends got some big points for me.
Speaker B:But overall, I'd recommend it to people just to see what they thought.
Speaker B:But it's gonna be a Marmite type film, I imagine.
Speaker A:Also, some people can't get past the end.
Speaker C:No, also Hitchcock, though, you know where he's running away from the plane that's pure like north by Northwest.
Speaker C:It's like this director's not throw that in there.
Speaker C:Yeah, it' I mean, in a way, if you're going to shoot a kind of drone about to do a strafing one, you might as well copy Alfred Hitchcock.
Speaker C:Is there a better way to do it?
Speaker C:But it's still kind of annoying.
Speaker C:There was another.
Speaker C:There was another cool bit where Rose says, no one cares what I say, which was interesting.
Speaker C:She felt like she was almost making the most sense.
Speaker C:But her brother says, yeah, that's probably true.
Speaker A:That's right.
Speaker C:Which is amazing.
Speaker B:That was quite funny.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Classic brother thing to say.
Speaker C:I love the flamingo scene and I just wanted say that a group of flamingos is called a flamboyance.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker A:Oh, that is brilliant.
Speaker A:I like that.
Speaker A:Okay, let's go to this.
Speaker A:Gonna be.
Speaker A:This could be interesting.
Speaker A:Test of time.
Speaker A:So this was only released two years ago?
Speaker A:Well, 20, 23.
Speaker A:So what would happen if that was released 20 years ago?
Speaker A:I don't.
Speaker A:For me, I don't think people would quite understand what, what it was predicting or like, because now it's.
Speaker A:It could be happening anytime soon.
Speaker A:Twenty years ago, people were like, I.
Speaker C:Tell you what's weird is 20 years ago, it might not have, but 20 would have.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Because you remember the fear coming up to the Millennial and it was like planes are going to fall out the sky, like the code isn't written.
Speaker C:Like the whole system is going to come to an end.
Speaker C:That would totally have worked.
Speaker A:That is true.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:It's scary that that's how long ago that was.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:As we discussed the other week, a lot of the technology that's being discussed in this film only was just in its infant stages.
Speaker B:Wasn't it that long ago?
Speaker B:Social media, even the reliance on pads to watch, you know, TV shows, all that kind of stuff.
Speaker A:So they wouldn't have obviously been able to include that, which wouldn't have me wouldn't be able to get the point across.
Speaker B:So in some ways it's almost going to be more of a sci fi.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:That is of the science fiction because of the tech.
Speaker C:But other than that, I think sadly the racial tensions would still obviously hold up.
Speaker C:I think it would hold up.
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Speaker A:So we're back on to my choice.
Speaker A:I'm going to go a bit further back in time.
Speaker A:Literally 20 years ago.
Speaker A:We're going to go one of the first movies I remember about cyber stuff.
Speaker A:It is the net.
Speaker C:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:Have you seen it?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Have you seen it?
Speaker C:I think I may have once.
Speaker C:I watched it once because like any person who'd watched Demolition man or Speed, that lady would be on your radar.
Speaker B:That's what I was gonna say.
Speaker B:I haven't seen it, but I love Sandra Bullock with a passion.
Speaker A:So for me, like I remember I've only seen it probably once or twice at the time when it came out.
Speaker A:So I was probably about 15ish and I've not seen it since.
Speaker A:Oh, I just remember it had a big impact on me because obviously I was.
Speaker A:Well, it was that, but it was also about emails and technology.
Speaker A:I was well into that already and it was just, it was everywhere.
Speaker A:It was popular, very popular at the time, I remember.
Speaker A:So I just infer to me to watch it all these years later and see if it, see if it holds up for me.
Speaker A:So there we go.
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