The Holiday - In A Nutshell
The Holiday (2006) – In A Nutshell
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PART 1 – The Nutshell – If you haven’t seen it (SPOILER-FREE!)
A completely spoiler-free breakdown of the festive romantic comedy that pairs Hollywood glamour with English countryside charm.
We explore the film’s themes of reinvention, loneliness, emotional burnout, new beginnings and the surprising impact of a change of scenery.
We look at its tone, pacing, humour, and the dynamic between the transatlantic cast — plus where the film sits within the world of rom-coms, holiday movies, and the signature style of writer-director Nancy Meyers.
By the end of Part 1, you’ll know whether this blend of festive escapism, romance, self-discovery and cosy seasonal comfort belongs on your watchlist.
PART 2 – The Unboxing – If you’ve seen it
What Did You Miss? →
A look at the details beneath the surface — from hidden character motives to filmmaking choices, cameos, structure, recurring themes and the film-within-a-film which gives The Holiday its distinct personality.
We also highlight things we spotted which you may never have noticed.
Paul’s Facts of the Day →
Behind-the-scenes surprises, production quirks, casting stories, and eye-opening trivia — including:
- The truth behind the movie’s iconic cottage
- The unexpected real-life inspirations
- Auditions you won’t believe
- Why Hans Zimmer approached the score the way he did
- And how several accidental cameos made it into the final film
Hate It or Rate It? →
Marc, Darren & Paul give their brief opinions and scores then see where The Holiday lands in the Legend League.
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Hello and welcome to Movies in a Nutshell with me, Marc Farquhar, myself, Darren.
Speaker B:Horn, and I, Paul Day.
Speaker A:We help you spend less time browsing and more time watching.
Speaker C:If you've seen the movie, we'll reveal what you might have missed.
Speaker B:If you haven't, we'll give you a quick spoiler free breakdown.
Speaker A:We've got behind the scenes trivia, including Paul's facts of the day, host ratings.
Speaker B:And a legend league table, plus your chance to choose a movie.
Speaker A: three years and we've gone to: Speaker C:I have. I do feel more mature.
Speaker B:How is this 20 years old next year.
Speaker A:Well into Christmas now.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker A:The holiday chosen by Mr. Horn.
Speaker C:Yeah, it was. You lucky devil.
Speaker A:So we are in part one, which we call the nutshell, where we will break the movie down, spoiler free. Yes, Darren, you gotta break this movie down, spoiler free. To help the listeners decide if the holiday is their kind of film.
So let's move on to the nutshell. How do we do it? What is the holiday really about?
Speaker C:Really about? It's about unrequited love. It's about loneliness. It's about death, and it's about the pain of being in love, but also not being in love.
I also think it's a little bit about choosing your kind of. We were talking about with Alf, about choosing your tribe.
This is also a little bit about choosing your environment and how your environment will massively impact the quality of your life.
Speaker B:All of that. And I put legacy as well.
Speaker C:Why legacy?
Speaker B:Just with some of the themes in it. Celebrating your legacy. Celebrating.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:So like I started last time of really trying to break it down into one. One core paragraph. So for this I've put. It's about two people who feel stuck.
Stuck in patterns, stuck in pain, stuck in versions of themselves they've outgrown. And it's about what happens when a change of scenery forces a change of perspective.
Speaker B:Oh, that's good.
Speaker A:I was gonna say it's gone blank.
Speaker B:I was gonna say never know what.
Speaker A:Darren thinks of what I say. He never lets. He never. He never gives up anything.
Speaker B:He's like, deep as the ocean.
Speaker C:Be a man.
Speaker B:But yeah, the change of perspective is. Is one of the notes I wrote where often we do get stuck in our routines and our lives and sometimes we're like, I'm so miserable in my routine.
Speaker A:Something has to change for you to Change.
Speaker B:And then. And this is why people go on title of the movie, they go on holiday to get away from the norm, to have a different perspective on things.
Because I always laugh sometimes when you see people like, oh, look at this place. It's got a shower and a sofa and all this stuff. And it's like, yeah, but at home you've also got a shower and a sofa and all this stuff.
But it's the change and it's a different sofa and it's a poshy shower or. Or whatever. And it's that change of perspective because it's the break from normality. Like one of my favorite things.
And I always think about the Jimmy Carr quote where he's like, we didn't have hot showers until however many years he said it was what he said the last 100 years.
Speaker C:No, like 50, dude.
Speaker B:50. Yeah. So not that long. We've had a hot shot. So often when I'm having a hot shower, it's one of my favorite things. I'm like, this is nice.
We have luxury.
Speaker C:I think that every time I come back from a music festival toilet. Yes. I'm just. I worship. Yeah.
Speaker A:My porcelain.
Speaker C:My porcelain throne. I'll just say, I love you so much.
Speaker B:Good to see you. But it's that perspective, isn't it? And thinking, yeah, I'm enjoying this. But you do need that change of scenery to maybe make you realize.
Because sometimes when you go on holiday, this might just be me. You go on holiday, you enjoy all that difference. But then you're like, oh, it'll be nice to get home again and get perspective back. So it's.
It's that. But with romance in the mix, of course, and festiveness.
Speaker A:Actually, for the first time, I've struggled with a meets. I've got Love actually meets. That's fair because I don't. I don't not seen that many films like this. I didn't really know what to compare it to.
Speaker B:When you love actually esque, it's the.
Speaker C:UK meets USA as well. So it's a little bit for when it's in the funeral, a little bit not in Hill.
Speaker B:Yeah. All those sort of Richard Curse courtesy.
Speaker C:But also it's Nancy Myers who's been working in the industry for decades.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C: n, which she got an Oscar for: Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's Goldie Horn. I should love golden movies back in the day. And she did what women want. Something's got to give. It's complicated. The Intern.
And all those got very similar vibes.
Speaker B:What Women Want. I met the writers of that when I went to watch 13 Going On 30, the Musical. Because they also wrote.
Speaker A:Going on about that. Yeah.
Speaker B:And they wrote what Women Want. And I got to geek out and talk about 13 going on 30 with them.
Speaker C:Did you mention me?
Speaker B:Well, they mentioned.
Speaker A:He didn't mention the podcast. We know that much.
Speaker B:Well, I know I was complimenting them on this.
Speaker A:Whenever he goes out into public now, he needs to be wearing like a hoodie that with the podcast logo on it.
Speaker B:Too busy talking about their show and their music.
Speaker A:If you're wearing that, you don't need to talk. It sells itself.
Speaker C:It does.
Speaker B:I guess so. But they asked about Darren, obviously. And so how's the horn section doing? I'm like, he's good.
Speaker A:He.
Speaker B:He wasn't that fond of Elf. He wasn't in the mood, but he's good. But yeah, I was quite geeked out and I was like, oh, my. And they're married now.
They're like a writing jury who got married.
Speaker C:Sweet.
Speaker A:Any other movies this could be compared to?
Speaker B:I think you're right on the money with just all of those sort of romantic comedy. Harry Met Sally, that kind of thing. But then the British part is very much that trademark Richard Curtis.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:All the films we've already named there. It was the other one we love. About. About Time.
Speaker A:Oh.
Speaker C:About Times on about Level.
Speaker B:That is a great.
Speaker C:Yeah, it's phenomenal. But all those sort of films that should also be. You could. Class.
Even though it's not set at Christmas, I would argue that's a Christmas movie I've not seen of its themes.
Speaker B:That's interesting. That could be controversial.
Speaker A:Could be recommended soon.
Speaker C:Yeah, be cool.
Speaker B:But the. The other thing, because you were saying last week when you picked this film.
Speaker C:There'S a spoiler that I'm fucking furious about that I'm gonna. In the next section.
Speaker B:We'll get to that. So it's got your elements of your rom com. Netflix Christmas, Hallmark. Hallmark. That was the word. The Hallmark Channel kind of thing.
Because of the cast involved. It's probably maybe a grade higher.
Speaker A:Anything else in the breakdown of this movie, what it's about?
Speaker C:No, I don't think so. I think that. I mean, Legacy, Unrequited love.
Speaker B:Going Holiday USA versus how.
Speaker C:How we all just want to be happy and how hard it is. How hard it is just to navigate relationships.
Speaker A:Okay, let's move on to part two, which is the unboxing. In part two. The unboxing we have what did you miss? Where we will highlight things you may have missed even if you've seen the movie many times.
Paul gives his formidable facts of the day and then we round off with Hate it or rate it where we each give our score brief rating and then we add our score together and put it in the legend league. So I'm going to go to Dan straight away. What did we miss?
Speaker C:Lindsay Lohan being in this movie is what we missed.
Speaker A:When you mentioned her name before, I was pretty sure she's in this.
Speaker B:Yeah, I did laugh at that moment.
Speaker A:Have you forgotten that she's not one.
Speaker C:In the key cast. She's on this.
Speaker A:It's a cameo trailer. One of our trailers that she cameo. That's hilarious.
Speaker C:Anyway, so she's in it massively.
Speaker B:Don't you be hating on Lindsay.
Speaker C:Don't be hating on Lyns. But it's balanced by the fact that Dustin Hoffman randomly walks up, which is lush. James Franco randomly rocks up.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Catherine Hahn, who we keep mentioning, one of your favorite actresses, I think obviously Eli Wallach's great, but then also John Krasinski's in there with like barely a talking part.
Speaker B:Krasinski's in there?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B: the officer broke. Were we on: Speaker C:I can't imagine this will be around.
Speaker B: t about. I think it was about: Speaker C:I'm guessing that though he just sits down and smiles.
Speaker B:He's charming, isn't he?
Speaker C:Yeah, he's a cutie piece.
Speaker A:Pull it down.
Speaker C:What did we miss? There's things I noticed as I went along, really. So I was kind of. I was invested from the moment it started. I was. Okay, cool.
Let's see what's going on. So firstly opens on a great kiss. The future Mrs. Horn.
Speaker B:Well, she is very attractive. She's called Odette Annabelle now. I think she was called something else then, but she was in the later seasons of House.
Speaker C:Oh, was she?
Speaker B:Yeah, you know when like the cast kept.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:Jennifer Morrison left and other people came in. She was one of the later people who came in because I caught a name at the end. That's so cool because all debt is quite a name. Stands out.
But I remember she got married, so it was a different surname. But that was obviously an early role for her. Just kissing at the start of the.
Speaker C:Film and I quite like that. So it plays around with this thing called diegetic music because you think you're watching the scene and they're kissing.
And there's music playing, which you think the people in the film can't hear. Then you pull back and you realize that Jack Black is actually playing the music because he's scoring the scene.
And it's like, oh, that was kind of cool. I didn't expect that. But then you got the voiceover kind of clunkily being like giving us exposition, like, oh, I thought this.
And what was weird is she says something like it's Kate wins it narrating. And she says it was Shakespeare that also said, love is blind. Now that is something I know to be true. And the camera shot is with Jack Black.
And I'm like, are you low key saying that Jack Black isn't attractive? Because are you going to fall in love with him? Because love is blind.
Speaker B:But it's amazing that they spoil it right from that opening line. When you put it like that.
Speaker C:Yeah, I just thought it was like, why are you talking about. Because love is blind has nothing to do with this film.
Speaker B:What are you saying about Jabla?
Speaker C:Yeah, it's like, this isn't about. You're gonna find someone like Jack Black's attractive guys.
Speaker B:Okay, well, you have to write in and let us know, are you attracted to Jack Black?
Speaker C:So I read it. I feel like I'm. I'm. I feel like I'm on movies recently because they don't hold up to your standards.
Yeah, let me think about which one I'm gonna go with.
Speaker B:The voiceover at the start made me think, very love actually esque. Because obviously in love actually, it's like love, it's everywhere. And it starts at the airport. It's the voiceover of Hugh Grant or whatever.
And that. It gave me that sort of vibe. Yeah. And also Bridget Jones. It was that Bridget. Bridget Jonesy. Like, oh, here's Mr. Darcy.
Speaker C:And it just messed up in like therapy wise because that guy is like a narcissist. Right. Just literally abusing Kate Winslow.
Speaker B:Well, all the guys at the start of this film are bastards. Yeah. They are absolute tools. And it's. And as usual, well, this is most my life. You go, how? How did you end up with this tool?
And they go, oh, he's lovely. And he's not. He's a tool. Sorry. Get my own rage out now. Good therapy. This podcast.
Speaker C:Did you notice how rapey this movie is?
Speaker B:Probably not as much as you're about to tell us.
Speaker A:You're going to have to point that one out, Darren.
Speaker C:Okay? So bear with me here. So Cameron Diaz has done the house swap.
She's now in the cottage, which Kate Winslet had gone back earlier to and cried, which I relate to a great deal.
Speaker A:I do it on a regular basis.
Speaker B:Drive home at the cottage.
Speaker C:Yeah, exactly. And then a drunk, Jude Law, walks up who has had too many ales and is basically saying, I've had a lot to drink.
I'm sorry, I thought my sister was here.
Speaker A:I normally come here when I'm drunk.
Speaker B:But love is blind, so that wouldn't matter, that the fact he's Jude Law and all charming and stuff.
Speaker C:But then he. She says, oh, you are so drunk, you're not going to remember this. So I think we should have sex. And he's like, is this a trick question or something?
Which is weird. And then they have sex and I'm like, that's problematic so much. And if you switch those genders, can you imagine if it was the other way around?
And Jude Law's like, wow, you're so drunk, you're not going to remember this. So lean back and think of the Queen.
Speaker B:It's a very different movie all of a sudden.
Speaker C:It is. And then the next day, she got too drunk and she apparently started to strip as she went into the cottage and she's finding her, like, underwear.
She's like, oh, my God, did we. And he's like, no, I wouldn't do that. Oh, wouldn't you, Jude? Aren't you a lovely young chap who respects women's boundaries because they inebriated?
Not this bitch.
Speaker B:No, she. She cares not.
Speaker A:But he does.
Speaker C:It does.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Which is.
Speaker B:Which makes him all charming and things.
Speaker C:And then there's this weird thing where everyone's, like, kissing each other and it's not allowed. Jack Black is also fussy. Jack Black is dating. This actress is still being way too freaking friendly with Kate Winslet for my liking.
Way too complimentary. Oh, you're really beautiful. This is this. Then he kisses her twice when he's trying to say goodbye.
Speaker B:But even before that, the first time they meet, I wrote, and it reminded me of the friends close Talker thing, where he's like, oh, you've sand in your eye and it's like inches from her face. It's like they've literally just met. If I did that with someone I just met, I feel like I would go on some kind of list and.
Speaker A:Be arrested, as we find out later. He so can't believe he's going out with this actress. Like, what does she see me? But then he's also flirting with Kate Winslet. I don't Understand?
I don't get it.
Speaker B:The lovely Kate Winslet.
Speaker A:And then there's that scene later on where he sees the actress outside with somebody else and he just. He just sacks her off and goes outside, goes, what the.
Speaker C:Yeah, totally.
Speaker A:Make up your mind. Where's your priorities here?
Speaker C:Doesn't Jude Law kiss Commodores on out of Nowhere? He kisses. Oh, yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to randomly put my lips on your face.
Speaker B:He does. I wrote that. I was like, yeah, that in reality is another court case. He's. He's in prison. Yeah. But no, in. In Fantasy Land, it's Jude Lawrence.
Oh, yeah, do that again.
Speaker C:Oh, and he's British, of course. He's got the British.
Speaker A:They got it on film.
Speaker B:Yeah, exactly. It's recorded right there.
Speaker C:Yeah. We've got the evidence, but.
Speaker B:But then she's the one who's like, oh, do that again. Yeah, like. So you turn up drunk someone's house, kiss the girl and then don't end up in prison.
Speaker A:The whole thing was a very weird interaction. Like, I was very confused at that point.
Speaker C:I'm glad you're saying it's always feel like I'm, like, reading too much into it, but these are the facts of what we saw.
Speaker B:That's what we saw.
Speaker A:That point. I was like, who's the who? Is there an aggressor here or not? Which way is this gonna go?
Speaker B:Is this the male reading of this film? Because.
Speaker A:Yeah, we're going to get a female perspective on.
Speaker B:The female perspective is. This is kind of the Notting Hill fantasy. So our Notting Hill fantasy is.
Oh, we run into Julia Roberts in the street and end up, you know, doing the Notting Hill script.
Theirs is they move to a cottage in the middle of the English countryside, they open the door and that just happens to be a drunken Jude Law ready to kiss them. It's that, like, a female fantasy thing. I don't know, because our reading of it is all. Yeah, it was a bit weird, all that, how that went down.
Speaker C:How would you feel if it was the other way around? Like, would so.
Speaker B:Well, the whole scene, like, let's say.
Speaker C:We meet Julia Roberts in a bookstore, whatever, but she's hammered. Like, do you go ahead? You won't go ahead?
Speaker B:No, I wouldn't you believe. Would you go ahead, listeners. Ask us on the subreddit and then we'll send the cops around.
Speaker C:I mean, there is. It's interesting.
Speaker B:Yeah. There's some problematic elements within that. Definitely. Somewhere. How did you describe rapey. Rapey elements?
Speaker C:It's a bit Peppa the pew is what it is.
Speaker B:Yes, that's exactly what it is. But he's so charming.
Speaker C:Yeah. And you say British.
Speaker B:I wrote down the same as I did with Elf. It's like, but it's a Christmas film. I'll let it go. It's a Christmas film.
Speaker C:What? I will. I could defend it a little bit because I don't think the Americans quite realize how much we can drink.
Do you remember that in the war there was like, there was like educational stuff going out to the Americans in World War II, being like, do not try and out drink the British.
Speaker B:No. Is that a thing?
Speaker C:Yes, it was.
Speaker B:Wow.
Speaker C:So maybe she's just like, oh, he's really. He was like, oh, God, there's a hot woman. Oh, I'm quite drunk.
Maybe he's only had like two or three pints and she thinks he's hammered because he don't drink.
Speaker B:I have no idea what that means.
Speaker C:No. I don't know.
Speaker B:I have no reference for that.
Speaker C:But just curious.
Speaker B:I know what you mean because he.
Speaker C:Didn'T fall over or stumble or be sick.
Speaker A:He didn't seem that drunk.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker B:Well, they discussed that in the morning, don't they? They discussed like, oh, well, you weren't that drunk because you performed. Yeah. And he was all like, oh, your ex is so wrong.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah. She also says, you know, I think foreplay is overrated. Who wrote this? Well, apparently Myers did. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker A:No, I made in this. About this film being kind of about agency, choosing yourself before choosing romance.
Speaker B:What, like discovering yourself.
Speaker A:Yeah. Every character begins powerless. Like Iris is trapped in. What was the word? Unreciprocated. Yeah.
Amanda is stuck in like a most almost like emotional shutdown after she's overworked. And their arcs are about reclaiming control over their own lives and change is the catalyst for all of that. Like deciding to say, yes, I want to do.
I'm sick of this. I'm going to say yes to that. I'm going to do this. I'm going to go on holiday.
Speaker B:Or when she turns down Rufus thingy and says, no, this is out of order.
Speaker A:And yeah, thing that's out of this loop.
Speaker B:The loop. Yeah.
Speaker C:Also punches her ex boyfriend in the face.
Speaker A:It's a good punch. That is.
Speaker C:It's a domestic violence is what it is.
Speaker B:A good punch where the police again, if we switch role. The holiday too, we switch the roles around and we see how that goes down. Yeah, it's awkward.
Speaker C:Like I'm okay with suspended disbelief and stuff, but I think.
I think the thing is, even Breakfast Club has been called out for being a little bit inappropriate because it's basically sexual assault in Breakfast Club. I just think we should be moving away from that kind of thing.
Speaker A:Well, these are old movies, so long time ago. I mean, what's that, nearly 20 years ago for this?
Speaker B:And you've got that thing of like we said, where we start and it's like all these men are real a holes and like character chewers of being the worst. Like, oh yeah, I'm sleeping with my secretary or whatever.
Speaker C:Of course you are.
Speaker B:And then the other guy's like, oh yeah, I've just got married. And then how cool was that? That she explains that everyone in the office knew that she had this thing with him. And then it's like, you Kate Winslet.
I forgot her name. You Kate Winslet. We want you to write the story about this getting married.
And it's like she just said two minutes before in the voiceover that everyone knew that. Yeah, it seemed a bit cruel.
Speaker A:It's about like hopeless romantics as well, isn't it? I don't know. She's still holds canal for him. Even though he treated like absolute shit. You still haven't learned.
Speaker B:He keeps reeling it back in.
Speaker A:That's what this film is about. Finally learning that message and putting yourself first and going, no, this ends now.
Speaker B:Yeah, and it's a good message. I get why people do like this film because it is quite a popular relate to it.
Speaker C:Smoke and mirrors. Like the end scene is them dancing at New Year. You're Jack Black, who is Cameron Diaz's ex boyfriend's friend.
Well, so now she's delighted that he's walked up at a New Year party.
Speaker B:Like it's all one new happy family.
Speaker C:And then. And Commandias and Jude Law haven't fixed the distance thing. So Jude Door's been like, I'm in love with you.
She's like, yeah, me not so much to never see you again. What's going on here?
Speaker B:We don't know.
Speaker A:Never go.
Speaker B:They all lived happily ever after.
Speaker C:Surely there was no Holiday two, was there?
Speaker B:We just have to assume we all lived happily ever after.
Speaker C:I love that if Holiday two was all them just on their separate lives and having never met again and nothing.
Speaker A:Came of any of their relationships.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:But six months later, all completely separate ways.
Speaker B:I must admit.
I don't know if you've both seen the There's a Jude Law advert and I can't remember what he's advertising, but it's like a spoof of the Holiday where he's in a bookshop and they both reach for the same book or something like that. And he's like, oh, it's just exhausting. And it was like, there's no time for romance.
But there's a time for this sandwich or whatever he's advertising and it's. It's very much him playing on his sex symbol in the Holiday Subway advert. And yeah, it's like a meet Cute like they talk about in this thing.
It's not Subway. It's something like that, though. Is it Waitrose? I don't know. But he's just like, oh, I've no time for this.
I'm just exhausted with romance, but I'll eat this sandwich, I've got time for this. And it's like, even Jude Law's sick of romance.
Speaker A:When I saw him in this, Judeo's like, where is Jude Law been this last 10, 20 years? Like, has he been in much recently?
Speaker C:He's got. Well, he had. At the filming of this, he had three kids. So he's got a life. I mean, we tend to do that. We like, oh, the actor's not got work.
Their careers failed. He may just be.
Speaker A:No, I didn't necessarily mean that. Just like, he just hasn't been in anything.
Speaker B:He was quite high profile for a long time. Yeah, I suppose it's only.
I was going to say only recently, but yeah, if you think about it, it's a while since they did that last Sherlock Holmes, but maybe he puts.
Speaker A:One of those people that puts his family life first. So, yeah, he chooses what he wants to do.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Anything else, gentlemen, before we move on?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker C:There was this just weird thing about A couple of women were worried about getting older and aging and looking rough. And then this level of shame they throw at Common Diaz because she can't cry, you know that. I just thought that was mean.
Speaker A:Yeah, they were ridiculing her for that, wasn't it?
Speaker C:Yeah. Whereas that guy wasn't crying. You're the only girl ever who doesn't cry when the boyfriend breaks up with him.
So you're not crying, you're dick and you've cheated on her.
Speaker B:He was a dude.
Speaker A:A bit of gaslighting going on in this film.
Speaker C:Yeah. Tiny.
Speaker B:The only other bits I picked up on was. I don't know if I imagine this or not, but I'll throw it past you. So she's singing the Killers at one point. Jealousy, Mr. Bright side.
And she's singing it in An English accent, Jealousy. And I'm like.
Speaker A:Which means she probably's familiar with the song. So she's right.
Speaker B:But the killers are American. So I'm like, yeah, but the song.
Speaker A:Is sung in English accent, though. Is it? Yeah, she was mimicking the guy who's singing it, basically.
Speaker B:Okay, fair enough. I did think, like, is this an American British thing where they've sort.
Speaker A:I don't know whether actually. I didn't know they were American. I thought they were English.
Speaker B:Really?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, well, there you go. That's why I'm wondering if when they were doing that, it's just the way.
Speaker A:The way the words are pronounced.
Speaker B:Maybe that's why it's a very popular song in England. Yeah, potentially, which is why I thought it was. But straight away, I'm like, why is she doing a strange English?
I mean, I've sang this song many times and I've never even thought about it. Which is ironic now. But, yeah, I just thought was read.
And the other bit was they did a few things which we call in film language, where we go, no show, don't tell. They did a few of them where they really stood out. I've seen this film before because I was studying it more for the podcast this time.
I was a bit more tuned into it.
Speaker A:Analytical.
Speaker B:Yeah. And it. They did a few of those where it's like, I'm here. It's like, yeah, we can see that. Oh, look, this is great. Yeah, we can see that.
Like, they didn't need to say. And it's as if they said, oh, say that. This is brilliant. Oh, this is brilliant.
Like when she hangs her head out the car, I brought in my nose, but I can barely remember.
Speaker C:She's like, oh, look at that. And it's just a plum.
Speaker B:Exactly like, oh, my word, that's cement. And it's like, yeah, but we can see that from your facial expressions. You don't need to really say that.
Speaker C:Looking at anything that's good is bushes and houses. Have you not been out the house?
Speaker B:I mean, I then took a step back and I'm like, yeah, it's to show how excited they are in their new environments and everything. And I get that. But there was just the minutes where it's like, you probably didn't need the line in to say, oh, wow, this is amazing.
Because you can see in, you know, the good actresses, you can see in their expressions.
Speaker C:It's a kind of. It's a thing with, I think, American romantic comedies where they do the montage with the.
The Music over like a montage of them going across the country or whatever it is.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:And it really bugs me. And you can do it better.
Edgar Wright does it way better than they say Hot Fuzz when Simon Pegg goes out and it's just like lots of like fast cuts and transitions just done more creatively.
Speaker B:The only other bit I was going to mention is the sort of subplot we mentioned about the. At the end of the last episode where we've got Hans Zimmer doing the score quality. Hans Zimmer obviously does scores for big.
So for him to do a rom com. Maybe the reason they got Hans Zimmer is because a big part of the movie is about movies and scores. Trailers fit that whole bit of the film around.
Arthur next door now. And I'm past it. And Kate Winslet brings him out of his. See, this is the bit of the film I really like. Not the actual headline cover of the Romance.
It's more this. This guy next door. And then he eventually gets to walk at this event where everyone's celebrating his legacy and his life's work.
And he was too proud to be like, I don't want to walk with a stick because, you know, I feel too proud.
And he works with the very charming Kate Winslet character to learn and also with Jack Black's character because he's encouraging them and they're like a little like a family unit. And like you say, it's the tribe thing.
So you've got this tribe with all these older American producers and things and they kind of meet together and then him getting. That almost feels like the cinema part of the film.
Speaker C:But there's also a sadness because they talk about his wife and they know how everyone wanted her and he had to get off the market. And there's a sadness. He's a widow. What have you got to live for anymore? There's a.
Speaker B:And there's a shot at the start, isn't there, where he, you know, they're showing the couples and then it shows him getting into bed and the wife's picture on the side. And I noted that this. I didn't see it the first few times I watched, but I saw it.
Speaker A:The first time you see him is when she's in the yard and the gates open and he's walking past and he's in a frame. He's got like a carer. Yeah. Who's that? They start to realize, like, probably where they live. They're all famous. Like a celebrity street.
Speaker B:Yeah. In the enclosed. What they Call them like gated communities. Yeah, so. So that's the bit for me where you've.
And the bit that probably me and Darren, maybe you. I don't know because you haven't seen this yet. But we'll get to it in the next bit. That film, like there's a gravitas film within the film.
Speaker A:It's almost like a second narrative in it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Like a meta narrative going on around movies and movie making and meet cutes and talking about how in films, Kate Winslet, you know, you're coming across as the best friend who doesn't get the guy, but actually you're the mainline character. So there's that little breaking of the fourth wall almost and I sort of appealed to that bit.
So obviously you've got the two romances going on, but within it you've also got this next door character.
Speaker C:That's also a nice thing that we were talking about, I think, with Elf and it was like, you know, I can't remember what I said. It was something like, you choose film, like medicine or what you're in the mood for, basically. Yeah. Acting like the best friend.
And then he programs her with old movies where the leading ladies have gumption. Is that you need to read. You need to watch this and find your, like feminist kind of goddess within you and tell this guy to go fuck himself.
That's not quite how he said it, but, you know, that was the subtext.
Speaker B:But she says at the end a bit like, again, the show don't tell. But she says, I found gumption.
But again, I'll forgive it the fact she says it because it's a Christmas film and everything and it's a good moment for the character. I love the fact that they had the voiceover guy whose name will probably come up when I'm doing my facts, who does the movie trailers.
And I was like, oh, I miss movie trailer voice. Man.
Speaker A:One man, one man.
Speaker B:We don't have that anymore. And I feel like movie trailers aren't as much fun because we don't have that. I mean, it'd probably not go down with today's modern audience as much.
But, like, will she find the love of a. It's like, oh, yeah, I miss that guy.
Speaker A:Thank you very much, gentlemen. Let's move on to Paul's fantastic fact of the day.
Speaker C:Bum bum bum.
Speaker B:The film was written specifically for Cameron Diaz, Kate Winslet, Jude Law and Jet Black in mind, apparently. You sure? Apparently How? I don't believe that, but. So who knows?
Speaker C:I saw the same story, but Then I saw some other people challenge it and be like, no, there was like other bigger names. Because some of these. This was like early movies for a lot of these people.
Speaker B:Yeah. They weren't massively.
Speaker C:Jude Law hadn't done romantic comedy before.
Speaker B:So I read. This is the first fact on IMDb that I read.
Speaker C:And I was like, I think Robert Downey Jr. Went for the Jude Law part.
Speaker B:I've got a fact about that.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker B:Which contradicts that fact, which is why I'm thinking, how was they come up with this fact?
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Did the writers say, well, oh, yeah, it was exactly who we wanted in the film.
Speaker A:Did we?
Speaker B:Anyway, moving on. Miles Jack Black, his studio, set up in the opening scene with keyboards, monitors, sound modules, etc.
Was copied directly from the studio of Hans Zimmer, who composed the score. So Nancy Myers specifically wrote the roles of Miles for Jack Black after seeing his performance in School of Rock.
believe that because that was:Without exterior walls, a roof, plumbing, heating and electricity, it seems like it would.
Speaker A:Be cheaper just to actually rent a nice house.
Speaker B:And I wrote in my notes, which I then saw in a fact somewhere, about how minted are all these people? Them houses must cost a million. Then I did read a thing. Iris's tiny cottage.
But in reality, thanks to UK property prices, an unspoiled cottage like that in a good location could easily be worth 1 million. Not far off. 2 million.
Speaker C:Yeah. Maybe on the outskirts of London.
Speaker B:Well, that's where they are. Cotswold.
Speaker C:There's a cottage like that round the corner from me. I said you didn't need to build it. Could I just use this one?
Speaker A:Yours is beautiful as well.
Speaker C:Ah, thank you.
Speaker B:Speaking of Hans Zimmer, and I did notice this one without even reading the facts, because I wrote down, when he does the Driving Miss Daisy and he holds it up, that's a handsomer score. The cameo from Dustin Hoffman was literally him driving past going, oh, I wonder what they're filming over there. Went across.
Knows Nancy Myers, all right. And it was just completely impromptu. That just happened to be what he was wearing.
Speaker A:Talking about the Graduate, aren't they? Yeah, yeah.
Speaker B:So they love to squeeze that in.
Speaker A:Can't go anywhere.
Speaker B:Right. But apparently that was him just driving past going, oh, I wonder what they're filming. Just all.
Speaker A:It was so quick before even the guy commented, he got, oh, it's gone.
Speaker B:Yeah, it's gone. Here's the one we wanted to know about. Robert Downey Jr. And Jimmy Fallon actually auditioned for Graham and Miles, respectively.
And Downey said, we both got called in just as seat fillers, needed someone to read with the girls. And we were sitting there going, it's about to happen for us. This is Robert Downey Jr.
I was like, I've got to have a better English accent than Jude Law at this point. And Winlet said, that's the worst British accent I've ever heard. And he was like, I'll check out now, but I'm taking the gummy bears from the money.
But from the minibar. That sounds like something Downey would say.
Speaker C:You're great, but the fit isn't right, or something like that.
Speaker B:Oh, okay. That's interesting. But then Obviously, Robert Downey Jr. And Jude Law work together on the Sherlock Holmes film.
So it all rolls around and what's something the four leads have all got in common?
Speaker C:I think James Cameron, but I can't.
Speaker B:No, no, no. An actor. Actor.
Speaker A:Male or female? Male.
Speaker B:High profile.
Speaker C:DiCaprio.
Speaker B:No, I'll tell you the answer. So there's not too much data. So they've all worked with Jim Carrey.
Speaker C:I was gonna say Jim Carrey, but I say, when did Jim Carrey work with Jude Law?
Speaker B:Lemony Snicket. Jablak in the Cable Guy. Kate Winslet in Cable Guy. Shine of Spotless Mind. Cameron Diaz, of course, in the Mask.
So while Maggie is apologizing to Miles, he can be seen playing a sample of Iris's theme on the seat cushion as it plays the score. This is a pretty good indication of the choice he will make concerning pursuing Iris.
e been unusual, especially in:I did think that especially about the littlest one, but maybe the parents put them on the phone.
Speaker A:I know.
Speaker B:Maybe I'm overthinking it. There you go.
Speaker A:This is the point now where we go over to the subreddit.
Speaker B:Subreddit.
Speaker A:So we started asking, give us some facts that Paul wouldn't get.
Speaker B:Oh, surely that's not possible.
Speaker A:Well, there's a few here.
Speaker B:Bring them.
Speaker A:This is by wikipet80. The English cottage Rosehill was not real. It was a full set built in a field. The production team built the entire exterior from scratch.
Do you own this?
Speaker B:Do I own the holiday?
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, yeah. Have you watched any of the extras? The Outtakes or the bloopers or anything.
Speaker B:There was absolutely nothing on the Blu ray.
Speaker A:Oh, okay.
Speaker C:Their team had to run around and take all the DVDs off the shelf or the videos off the shelf that had to cast it in.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:You can't have, like, Titanic in the background or whatever.
Speaker A:You must have loved the scene with all the physical media.
Speaker B:Yeah, I did.
Speaker A:Yeah. I was thinking of you when that was on.
Speaker B:It's like, oh, my word. It's like, yeah. Now everyone would be just like, can we get all this to the charity shop, please?
Speaker A:It's like, Kate Winslet could not stop laughing during the Mr. Napkinhead scene. Jude Law improvised extra silly versions and Winslet ruined multiple takes because she just could not keep it together. Thanks for that, Paul.
That takes us on to hate it or rate was Darren. So I'm gonna go over to you, Darren, since it was your choice.
Speaker C:Yeah. This was a mistake, wasn't it?
Speaker B:I knew it would be as soon as he said it.
Speaker C:So many movie kind of references. I thought, oh, I'm gonna love this. And then it started and I realized how starved I must have been when I saw it.
For stuff that was mentioned in movies like, oh, but no, it's. It starts and it's clunky anyway because there's this massive exposition because it's. It doesn't know what kind of movie is.
So you think it's going to be a romantic comedy because you start up with Kate Winslet with the voiceover that's quite cute, but then she's at the office party and she's got the sarcastic best friend who's being sarcastic, but then it's just exposition. Or, tell me again, did he ever say I love you? Why have you not had these conversations before? This is just for the audience's kind of benefit.
And so that kind of bugged me quite a bit. And then it gets really, really heavy and deep when, like, Jude Law's like, yeah, I'm a widow. I've got two kids I haven't mentioned to you.
Which is weird, by the way. Like, you would. You may not mention the widow thing, but you'd be like, yeah, I've got some kids. It's. Was it 2 hours and 20 or something? 2 hours, 15.
Speaker B:It's quite long for a rom com.
Speaker C:It used to be 90 minutes, 100 minutes. We don't need it. So in that whole drama thing, like, oh, my wife's dead and I've got two kids, and that's a different movie.
I don't know why we're suddenly in that movie. But I'd love the idea of him being like, you know, I love you, it's been two weeks and I love you because that's what I want. I want the meet cute.
And I love the fact that she's me cute.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Because it's like, I know that because I.
Speaker A:That's the second time I've ever heard that. The first time was for you about two months ago. Never heard of that.
Speaker C:So, yeah, I want to be in love. And then I'm like, wait, these guys are on the definition of a rebound.
Most of them may accept George Lu Law, but he's just starved for affection because he's like been going through mourning for freaking.
Speaker B:That's why he's drinking at the pub, I guess.
Speaker C:Exactly. Not looking after his kids.
Speaker A:And then the grandparents are.
Speaker C:And then Jude Law. And then Kate wins. It goes from like, oh, I'm in love with this guy.
But now actually Jack Black's one me over who's just broken up with his girlfriend this morning. Like, have some self respect, Mike.
Speaker B:You know, he's all charming. In the videos.
Speaker C:It just looks like forced love. And then his montages of people falling in love that just feel fake. Like, go watch before sunset and before sunrise with Richard link later.
That's how people fall in love.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, agreed.
Speaker C:Just come and D is being like, look over there, I'm running away. Oh, you funny, silly American.
Speaker A:Paul's gone. Paul's gone.
Speaker B:Exactly what I thought when I saw that scene.
Speaker A:What the is this?
Speaker B:We had a bush. Oh, no, I found you.
Speaker A:Let's play with a five year old.
Speaker C:Yes. And then there's like bits where she's like, you know, oh, my parents divorce. I haven't been able to cry. We were so close.
We called ourselves the three Musketeers. Oh, that's original. Oh, did you. What do we do with this information? So, yeah, dumb montages are flirting, the camera moving for no reason.
I'm just, I don't know what's going on. People laughing for no reason, Me watching people. People send emails to each other over and over again. Interesting fact. That site was real.
Speaker B:Ah.
Speaker C:So, yeah, anyway, I, I found it really hard to get into. I found it cringy. And then I would get annoyed at characters for making annoying decisions. And then it didn't seem to flow.
I, I didn't fall in love with the idea of being in love with this movie. I actually just felt a little bit sad that these guys are bouncing around.
They're in relationships that aren't healthy, they are rebounding onto new relationships that are just a bunch of freaking red flags you've got to deal with. Like, and I always. I also find it a bit weird that, you know, he's letting Cameron Diaz meet his kids. That got to be. Is this our mommy now?
Speaker B:That's pretty much how they look at her at the door. Like, hello.
Speaker C:Yeah. Anyway, so, yeah, I didn't like it and it made me feel a bit sad. And so I'm going to give it a three. Sorry. Bummed out.
Speaker B:That was your choice.
Speaker C:I know. I feel like I've broken my own heart. Oh, also, what's she doing with a chauffeur in this country?
Because she's like, ma', am, would you like me to get closer to the cottage? Oh, yes. Wait, who are you? And you don't make that much money making trailers.
Speaker B:Come on, she's the best of the trailer makers.
Speaker C:I don't. You guys think I'm being too harsh?
Speaker A:No.
Speaker C:Had you seen it before?
Speaker A:No, I was barely aware of it.
Speaker C:But were you watching it with your arm around your lovely wife?
Speaker A:I was watching with my wife because it was just the other night because I was running out of time. I need to watch a film. Do I Watching a film? She was like, what is it? And she like looked at it and she went, okay. And then we start watching.
I was like, I'm Sorry, this is 2 hours, 15 minutes. Yeah, she's not a big movie watcher, but we watched it. I thought it was a bit, meh. Bit middle of the road. Didn't really. Didn't really go anywhere.
I didn't really relate to any of the characters. It was a bit predictable.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like, so the way it ended, I was like, what a surprise. I like a curveball or like at least part of the movie where you go, oh, where's this going? Oh, now we're going here. It was just kind of. I don't know.
So I'm going to give it a 5.3. I haven't got much to say.
Speaker C:That's actually pretty generous, really. I think if. If it didn't have the stars that are in it, we wouldn't even.
Speaker A:I mean, to be fair, the one of that. For first scenes I saw Jack Black. Well, there's a point.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And that's what I thought at the start where I was trying not to spoil it, where if it was one of these Netflix rom com that the church out on the Hallmark channel, we'd probably be just like, when I'm gonna.
Speaker A:I liked a bit. I liked it when they were the whole going on holiday and it was quite exciting. I was, how's this going to play out? Because I'm not.
Obviously I've not seen it first time I was like, oh, I was quite disappointed how it all. A lot of the messaging was a bit mixed, a bit muddled. So yeah. 5.3.
Speaker C:I loved it. Eli Wallach in it. I mean that was great to see him and he was a cool character.
Speaker A:What did you give it? 3.
Speaker C:3.
Speaker A:What was you, Paul?
Speaker B:Mixed feelings on this one. So I feel like I enjoyed it more. As you know. I do love a rom com.
Speaker A:Have you seen this much before?
Speaker B:Not much, but the last few years I've sort of cranked it out.
Speaker C:Do you think it is a rom com as well?
Speaker B:Like, I think it's still classes of rom com.
Speaker A:It wasn't very funny when he's got.
Speaker C:The sarcastic best friend but she disappears really early on and because that's what kept her. Kept introducing characters and I wouldn't see him again.
And I'll see it then he's got the big drama with the widows and it's got the chasing that you'd have at a rom com. But she's just running down the lane. She's not trying to stop him getting married. Like. No. Or stop him from getting on the plane.
Speaker B:He's already there. Yeah.
Speaker C:He's just waiting there. You could. And then he's crying, which. That was just lame.
Speaker B:That was the other bit. Word show, don't tell. Where she's like, I've trouble crying. Fair enough. They mentioned it once. It's like, okay, we've made that note.
And then she has a scene where she sat there trying to cry and it's very like forced. It's like, oh, is that because she can't cry that she's trying to cry? And then it said again later like, oh, I can't cry. It's like, we get it.
I like the Hans Zimmer stuff. I like the music stuff. I like the film trailer stuff. All the stuff that's about that I went on about before about it breaking the wall.
Talking about movies and the love of movies.
Speaker A:Yeah. The best story in this is about the. The guy next door. The old guy.
Speaker B:So like you said, Darren, it's like two movies stitched together. Obviously try to do a love actually sort of thing where it's different storylines and everything else. I found this time more than ever.
I don't know why I'm really attracted to Kate Winslet in this film. I don't know why. She has the sparkly eye thing. It's Christmas and I'm like, oh, yes.
And the way she's with the guy next door and all that, and Arthur and helping him.
Speaker A:She's really sweet in this movie.
Speaker B:Really sweet, nice character. And I'm like, yes.
But then every time it goes back to Cameron and Jude, I'm like, I couldn't stand her in this film for some reason, and I don't get like that on films, but I was like, you know what? I've never really noticed it before, but in this film I'm really taking.
I want to see what's going on with Arthur next door and the film stuff and Kate being sweet with him and even the Jack Black stuff. I quite liked all that, even though it was a bit, hey, I'm Jack, but I'm being cool in this film.
Speaker A:And chilled.
Speaker B:I know one of my facts that I didn't say was Jack thinks it's one of his best performances. Maybe it's because it's a bit more soul. So, yeah, I'm really invested in this story. But then it goes back to them, too.
And like you say, then it gets all these my kids I didn't tell you about and are we sleeping? And we know. And then she's all like, oh, my God, we can't see. And she's so dramatic.
And I don't know that bit of the story for me, just this time especially, because normally I'm like, oh, yeah, he's doing the napkin head thing. And it's fun. I know some of my friends, women, they love this film. So that's why I said at the start, maybe it's a perspective thing.
Maybe that's the daydream. Jude Law comes to your house drunk at night and, you know, I'd be like, hey, dude, lecturelock.
Do you want to start off now and try to stay in this cottage and have some peace? Yeah. Mixed feelings, kind of. I thought the first bits kind of cliched as well. It's all a bit like you say, he's the Saka best friend.
None of it really pays off and it goes into a different film. I like the story about Arthur and the kind of redemption he gets from walking up the stairs.
I found all that bit quite nice and I did find the bit quite sweet where he's like, hey, what you doing on New Year's Eve? And they both sort of smile at themselves. It's like, oh, that's Quite a sweet moment.
You know, take in account the fact it's all been quite staged and put together.
Speaker C:And then he probably died on New Year's Day. Wait, also, when did this happen? It's Christmas. So what did this event.
Speaker B:Oh, it all happens in a week or something.
Speaker A:Yeah, it was. Yeah.
Speaker B:Because one minute they're on Christmas. Christmas Eve is when he breaks up with Shannon Shitter. I can't pronounce the second name.
Speaker C:So then what? So then Christmas Day, he's like, okay, fine, I'll go to this event. It was going to happen before New Year. So Boxing Day. What?
Speaker B:Maybe. Who knows? Boxing Day event.
Speaker C:Yeah. Fast and loose with time.
Speaker B:They are a little bit. So what did I say? Yeah.
Speaker A:6.
Speaker C:I don't believe either any of these relationships. I don't believe that she would fall for Jack Black. I don't think that Jude Law and Commanders would work out.
Speaker A:Agreed.
Speaker C:It's just. I don't believe him.
Speaker B:It's all kind of just you going together because it's Christmas film or it's a festive film and.
Speaker A:Oh, because it's in the script.
Speaker B:Yeah, the script says that I can't cry.
Speaker C:Exactly. We should have sex now. Why? You're a little bit drunk. Where it says it in the script.
Speaker B:All right. Yeah. Cool.
Speaker C:All right.
Speaker A:Yeah. Okay, so it puts it in 41st out of 49. So it's in the relegation zone.
Speaker B:Okay, so that makes sense.
Speaker A:It got a 14.3. So it's just above Bad Boys and Big Trouble in Little China.
Speaker B:Oh, no, hang on. I can't have it above Bad Boys.
Speaker A: st below Con air and Superman: Speaker C:Why did Conor get such a kick in?
Speaker A:Because we didn't really rate it.
Speaker C:It didn't hold any of us like.
Speaker B:It was all right. But we've thought it would be done better in the Rock and things like that.
Speaker A:Yeah, it's a cliche, a bit generic.
Speaker B:We enjoyed better.
Speaker A:There's better versions of this movie in that genre. Totally.
Speaker B:I still feel like Bad Boys got a bum wrap there because, you know, have I put this above. But we put this.
Speaker A:We got to get over it.
Speaker B:Can't wait till I say Bad Boys 2 is my recommendation at the end of this film. At the same time, podcast, why you.
Speaker C:Want to destroy my Christmas.
Speaker B:Sorry.
Speaker A:There we go.
Speaker B:So that's what New Year.
Speaker A:That is what we made of the movie. But what did you guys think? Please let us know. On to part three. We have the lobby where we read out your questions, your comments, and Your messages.
And then we ask our question of the week and then we finish with next week's movie. So Sam Bradford has messaged in. He's put, hey, guys, love the pod.
Speaker C:Excellent.
Speaker A:You asked a few weeks ago about soundtracks to committing crime. Hudson Hogg, wasn't it?
Speaker B:Oh, that's right.
Speaker A:Remember, not everyone listens to every episode. Bang on when it comes out way behind. Or some people just discover us for.
Speaker C:A certain episode that's also topical with the theft of the Louvre. Yes. What's the soundtrack for stealing the word.
Speaker B:You like to swing Ernest as they rob the Louvre.
Speaker A:So he's put, well, you're old enough to remember the Britney Spears song Toxic. I'm going for that as a song. As crime is toxic. I was like, fair enough, fair enough.
But me being me, I'd go for Toxic by Britney Spears, but covered by Franz Ferdinand, which is a British band, which I didn't know. I've looked it up. It's. It's pretty cool. He sent. He sent a link which we'll put in the show notes. I think so, yeah.
In movies, music can change scene or an emotion. So. So can I cover in music, like obviously completely change. There's songs that have come out where people don't even realize it's a cover.
Speaker C:Yeah, there's a. So much better than the original Hallelujah by Lena Cohen. There's tons of covers, some awful, but some are actually fairly good.
Speaker A:So I doubt you would have heard this, but here's the link. So we'll put it in the show notes for people to listen to. It's pretty interesting. Estimators, totally different. Yeah, Darren's heard them all.
Speaker B:Been there, done that.
Speaker A:If you want to join the conversation, you can send us a voicemail, a voice message. If you go to movies in a shell dot com, there's a link there to a voice message you can email us. Hello, Movies in a nutshell dot com.
We'd love to hear your comments. If you've got any questions, any suggestions, anything like that, tell us who you are, where you're listening from, or read them out on the show.
So any of you, like, if you've got any thoughts on the holiday, favorite scene, favorite line, favorite pairing, or things that you didn't like. Yeah, let us know. Or read them out.
Speaker B:And I've wrote down some of my show don't tell quotes. This is amazing. Look at that. I'm here. There you go. That was when I started picking up on it. It's like, yeah, we know you're Here.
Because you're there.
Speaker C:Tell me again why. It doesn't matter. I hate that in me. It's like, tell me again why we're going to the office. Tell me again why we're going to the Lapland.
Well, this is the plan exposition.
Speaker A:Let's go over the plan one more time.
Speaker C:Oh, my God. Okay, so you're gonna do this.
Speaker A:I'm sure they've gone over this. I don't need to know. Just do it. Yeah, let me see.
Speaker C:Yeah, we're gonna see you do it. You don't need it.
Speaker A:We don't need to know the plan. We're not doing it with you. Just do it.
Speaker C:Exactly.
Speaker A:This takes us on to the question of the week.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Which is, what's the maddest thing you ever said yes to?
Speaker B:These two guys once asked me to do this movie podcast. Yeah, I. I don't tend to say yes to many exciting things, to be honest.
Speaker A:I was probably. Do you want to go traveling around the world for a year, maybe longer?
Speaker B:Yeah. I bet you're glad yesterday.
Speaker A:Yeah. Best thing ever.
Speaker C:Did I want. I think I've said this story before. I said yes to being a stage manager at a music festival.
Expertise felt really out of my comfort zone, and I was just, okay, you guys seem to think, I can do it. I'll give it a bash. Fucking loved it. I was buzzing for, like.
Speaker A:But also saying yes to something always made up because I said yes to this.
Speaker C:Yeah, I've met some of the best people just to saying yes to that. And the only thing stopping me was like, imposter syndrome, maybe getting it wrong and say, well, I told him up front I didn't know what I was doing.
So if it had gone, crap, it's on them. Yeah.
Speaker B:I mean, sometimes I've said yes to things, but it's stuff that I've thought, I need to do this. So it's not saying yes so much as, like, I'm gonna do this.
I remember back at uni, I'd done drama in school, and then I kind of stopped doing drama, and I went into music and doing singing things. But then in my last year at uni, I suddenly had this urge to be like, I wonder if I can still do it. Like, the.
The actin y theatre thing just reminded me of you, sort of about stage stuff. And I did. And I did this play, and it went really well.
And the biggest compliment was one of the drama teachers was sat with my parents who came to watch one of the nights of the show, and they're like, oh, what's he studying? What? What's he in? It's like, oh, yeah, he's not studying drama. He's just doing this as a bit of a thing. Oh, wow. Is he?
Speaker C:Right?
Speaker B:Okay. And I was like, okay, I still got it. And then I never, never went back to it, but I did the singing thing instead.
So that's one of the moments where I said yes, but it was almost to myself. It wasn't like someone said, do you want to do this? I just thought, you know what? I feel like I need to do this thing.
Speaker A:There we go. So what's the maddest thing you ever said yes to? I look forward to your answers.
So you can email us hellooviesinnutshell.com the links to our socials in the show notes. So please get in touch and we'll read the best ones out on the show. Okay, that takes us on to next week's movie, which is Mr. Paul Day's choice.
Where we going? Well, bearing in mind it's Christmas.
Speaker B:It is Christmas, so I better be Christmassy. And we've just done a romantic sort of film, so I'm trying to steer away from Christmas romantic films.
Speaker A:As much as it pains you.
Speaker B:As much as it pains me, because I have a lot on the list for that. But I know, you know, Darren, after what you've just said about the holiday, let's move away from that now.
One thing that scared me with this was all the kind of modern classics in inverted commas that you would think would be on Netflix and Prime ready for Christmas, aren't there? So again, I'm flying the flag of physical media and saying, well, it doesn't matter because I've got them.
But obviously we'd like the listeners to listen.
Speaker A:Let's invite everyone to Paul's house then.
Speaker C:Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker B:Oh, no, I'm crap at hosting. We have that twitching. So I found one that's on prime and it's a Jim Carrey Christmas film.
Speaker C:Oh, no.
Speaker A:Many Christmas films as Jim Carrey in.
Speaker B:Well, I don't know, but I have a feeling Darren's gonna hate this one. But I'm gonna.
Speaker C:I think of one film.
Speaker B:Is it the Grinch?
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker B:Yeah, let's. Let's do that one.
Speaker A:One day Darren's gonna. There's been a film where Darren thinks he's not gonna like and he's gonna watch it and actually love it.
Speaker C:That may happen other way around. I did. I've watched. I watched a Grinch. I've told you a Story that the way I got into enjoying film is stupidly followed a girl to Southeast Asia.
That's a whole different story. Yeah, exactly. And I was. But everywhere I traveled around Southeast Asia, like Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, in language or dubs.
And because it was Christmas when I was there and everything shut down around that time, so I got stranded in this, like, little town, and it was just a Grinch. I think I watched it three or four times.
Speaker A:Oh, which one?
Speaker C:It was this one.
Speaker B:This one?
Speaker C: Yeah. I was in:Even the Grinch, apparently.
Speaker B:Well, we'll see. Yeah, let's rewatch it again.
Speaker C:25 years.
Speaker A:What's the actual name of the title of the film?
Speaker B:How the Grinch Stole Christmas. Excellent.
Speaker A:I've not seen it. I've not seen that one ever. No.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:I've seen the more recent animated one.
Speaker B:Okay. The one by the guys who do Despicable Me and things.
Speaker A:There's that scene where they're trying to creep up and they're on the snow. That. This is the loudest snow I've ever heard.
Speaker B:That just.
Speaker A:That's just always sticks in my mind.
Speaker B:Yeah, I like that one too.
Speaker A:But I like Jim Carrey, so I'm hoping I'm going to like this.
Speaker B:Okay, well, there we go. Let's go with their Grinch next week's movie.
Speaker A:Thank you, Paul. Thanks for listening. Appreciate your time. Guys, if you've liked the show, if you. If you want to help us get in touch, let us know.
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This is Mark saying goodbye and Darren.
Speaker C:Saying goodbye for now.
Speaker B:I'm not gonna fall in love with you, I promise.
Speaker C:Oh, my God. It reminds me how much I hate.
