Practical Magic(1998) - Casting a 90s Spell on Us?

Darren: 00:00:00

Sorry, Marc.

I failed you.

I failed my ancestors.

Paul: 00:00:03

Let's move on to my next.

Darren: 00:00:05

So, yeah, let's keep this short and go home early.

Height of douchedom.

The highest.

The king of all douches.

She's like, oh no, I've met this guy who's clearly a dick and is clearly going to be bad for you.

Marc: 00:00:18

Quote that.

Height of douchebag.

There you go, that's a new one.

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Paul: 00:00:37

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So welcome back to the show.

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Darren: 00:01:06

That's okay.

We feel obligated to come.

Marc: 00:01:09

I was talking to listeners.

Darren: 00:01:10

Really?

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I know you're here.

You already said that before we press record.

Paul: 00:01:13

He ordered us here.

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Yeah, exactly.

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I'll let you go later.

Darren: 00:01:20

Don't we have freedom?

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Okay, okay.

Marc: 00:01:22

So Practical Magic: 1998

This was your choice, Paul?

Paul: 00:01:25

Well, you know, you gotta get a rom com in when you can.

Marc: 00:01:27

And what was your logic behind choosing this one?

Paul: 00:01:29

I'll be brutally honest with you, listener.

I'm trying to get the algorithm because the sequel's about to come out, so I'm hoping this will get people going.

Oh, what's this?

Podcast?

Marc: 00:01:38

Or a lot of people will be going, oh, I better watch the first one before I go and see the second one maybe.

Paul: 00:01:41

Yeah.

Darren: 00:01:42

And we've got nostalgia.

We've got nostalgia for practical magic.

Paul: 00:01:45

Yeah.

And it's Sandra Bullock and it's Nicole Kidman.

So these things came together in a beautiful swirl of magical.

Let's pick Practical Magic.

And I've seen it for a long time.

Marc: 00:01:56

I hadn't seen it.

Had you seen it, Darren?

Darren: 00:01:58

Yeah, a long time ago.

It'll be in that whole era when like Speed came out and.

Oh yeah, I was gonna say, and like Days of Thunder with Nick Hawking.

Marc: 00:02:05

Right in the slap bang of the 90s, wasn't it?

Darren: 00:02:07

Yeah.

Marc: 00:02:07

Okay, so let's begin with the Nutshell.

I'd describe this as a romantic fantasy comedy drama with supernatural elements.

Yeah.

Paul: 00:02:14

With witches.

Marc: 00:02:15

Yeah.

Paul: 00:02:15

Spoiler.

Marc: 00:02:16

I don't think it.

Is it a spoiler?

Practical magic.

Paul: 00:02:18

I guess not.

It's implied on the front cover.

So, yes.

Marc: 00:02:21

Directed by Griffin Dunn.

Anyone know what he's famous for?

Anything?

El?

Darren: 00:02:25

Not much.

Paul: 00:02:26

I had a look.

It looks like he's an actor.

Darren: 00:02:28

Yeah.

Paul: 00:02:29

And it said in one of his quotes he kind of likes doing different things.

He's not doing the sequel.

I noticed that he did another rom com just before this called Addicted to Love.

Darren: 00:02:37

Is that Meg Ryan?

Paul: 00:02:38

Meg Ryan.

Matthew Broderick.

Yeah.

Yeah.

Darren: 00:02:39

Which is.

Marc: 00:02:40

So he has a.

He has a type of thing.

But then he did.

Darren: 00:02:44

That was the only one that stood out though, Right?

Everything else was a bit mid.

Paul: 00:02:47

Yeah.

Everything else.

He was doing like episodes here and there, that kind of thing.

Darren: 00:02:50

So he's a director for hire.

Probably.

Marc: 00:02:52

So, as you said, Sandra Bullock, Nicole Kidman, Stockard Channing, Diane West.

A weist.

Darren: 00:02:56

I always said weast, but I might be wrong.

Paul: 00:02:59

I don't know.

Marc: 00:02:59

That's the first time I've seen that name, so I don't know.

Darren: 00:03:01

Yeah, I feel like it's something I would have checked years ago, so I'm just going to go with that.

Dan Wiest.

Marc: 00:03:04

So what's the nutshell of this film?

Break it down.

Paul: 00:03:06

It's about family.

Thanks.

Darren: 00:03:10

A family is cursed, so that the women can never really fall in love because if the men fall in love with them, they will die.

Marc: 00:03:18

So it's about the family trying to break that curse.

Darren: 00:03:20

Generational trauma is what it is.

Paul: 00:03:22

That's what it is.

And it's also about sisterly bonds.

Darren: 00:03:27

Yeah, totally.

Paul: 00:03:28

There's also some other stuff, but I'm trying not to give away the plot in the sense of it is a rom com.

It is a fantasy, but there's elements of other things in the mix.

Darren: 00:03:36

But it's also like X Men.

It's also about, like, fitting in, being accepted by your community.

Marc: 00:03:41

Yeah.

There's quite a few different layers to it within all that.

Paul: 00:03:43

I almost said it was while you were sleeping versus Serendipity versus the craft.

Marc: 00:03:47

I know.

Paul: 00:03:48

That's a three.

Darren: 00:03:49

You did say.

I just had you three.

Marc: 00:03:51

I had nothing.

Hill meets Hocus Pocus with a little dash of the craft.

Darren: 00:03:54

Oh, you guys are good at this.

Marc: 00:03:56

Thanks.

Paul: 00:03:58

I also wrote down randomly Stardust.

Darren: 00:04:00

Nah.

Paul: 00:04:01

No, because it.

Michelle Pfeiffer's bit in Stardust with the witches and everything.

Darren: 00:04:05

Yeah, but Stardust has got more of a Fairy tale energy.

Paul: 00:04:08

Yeah, that's good.

Darren: 00:04:08

Call this.

This doesn't feel like a fairy tale.

Paul: 00:04:10

Beetlejuice.

Marc: 00:04:11

Yeah, I was gonna say Beetlejuice.

And Ghost.

Paul: 00:04:13

Ghost.

Darren: 00:04:13

Maybe it's more like Gilmore Girls meets.

Paul: 00:04:15

Ghost and Sabrina the Teenage Witch.

Darren: 00:04:17

Yeah, that's good.

Paul: 00:04:18

Melissa Jonhart.

Darren: 00:04:19

Yeah.

Paul: 00:04:19

Because she had two aunts.

Marc: 00:04:20

And this movie is very 90s.

Oh, yes, very 90s.

Darren: 00:04:23

Which is weird because it came out just before Matrix.

And I don't know, I just find it weird that the Matrix can come out.

Marc: 00:04:29

Yeah, but the Matrix was trying to be more futuristic.

That wasn't.

It was in its attention.

This was buried stamp of the time.

Darren: 00:04:35

I am so smitten with the 90s style.

If ever I see like an old episode of Friends and it's smack in the 90s.

Just a fashion and just 90s is so weird because I don't feel that we know what it looks like.

It's like I can picture the 70s and the 80s and the 60s, but then the 90s, you can kind of think as a nothing decade.

But then when I see it, I love it.

Marc: 00:04:53

A lot of change within the 90s as well.

It started off as one thing and it ended up something different.

Paul: 00:04:57

It's a feeling.

Darren: 00:04:59

Really good music, really good fashion, really cute outfits on.

On women.

Paul: 00:05:02

The bit that gets me is how many films were coming out every year.

A bit like the 80s where you were like, when did this come out?

98.

When did this come out?

98.

When did this come out?

97.

You're like, did we really have all them films within the space of a few years?

And now you think, what stood out these last few years?

Darren: 00:05:18

And there's too much choice.

So it's hard for one thing to break through the zeitgeist because there's so much sl.

Marc: 00:05:23

Even the soundtrack for this movie could be its own compilation album.

Darren: 00:05:25

Yeah.

Marc: 00:05:26

Of the 90s.

There's some good tunes in this.

Paul: 00:05:28

Faith Hill classics.

This Kiss.

Marc: 00:05:31

This Kiss.

Paul: 00:05:32

That's my standout on this.

This one.

Marc: 00:05:33

Yeah.

Paul: 00:05:34

There is one standout film this year, obviously, which is Coyote versus Acme.

Marc: 00:05:37

Have you been see it yet?

Paul: 00:05:38

Yeah, I went and loved it.

Marc: 00:05:39

Okay, there we go.

Paul: 00:05:40

Fun I've had in ages.

Marc: 00:05:42

Yeah.

I spoke some people who've been in this other.

Enjoyed it.

Paul: 00:05:43

Yeah.

Marc: 00:05:44

Took their kids.

Some people took their kids.

They said they enjoyed it.

So.

Paul: 00:05:46

Sorry, slight tangent, but anyway.

Marc: 00:05:48

Anything else on the nutshell for this movie?

Darren: 00:05:50

No, I put.

Paul: 00:05:50

There's a spot of the Frighteners in there.

Marc: 00:05:52

I don't want the Frighteners.

Darren: 00:05:53

Is It's a Michael J.

Fox Ghostbusters movie, but it's not officially Ghostbusters, but there's ghosts in it.

And he busts them.

Paul: 00:06:01

That's a good nutshell of the brightness.

Hey, we're doing two for one nutshells here today.

Darren: 00:06:06

I don't think he does bust them, does he?

Hires them.

Yeah, it's a scam.

Paul: 00:06:09

It's a whole thing.

But yeah, there's a touch of that at some point, I thought.

Marc: 00:06:12

We always seem to hit that bang on nutshell.

At the end of the nutshell, someone always comes out for a sentence and goes, that's.

That's a good way of saying that.

Paul: 00:06:18

I think we.

I think we hit this one straight off with your fantasy rom com with.

Which is an Aiden Quinn's in the mix.

If you don't know Aidan Quinn, he is the boss in elementary.

Marc: 00:06:27

What is he in this?

Paul: 00:06:28

He is.

Darren: 00:06:29

He's the detective, love interest.

Paul: 00:06:32

Detective love interest guy.

I think he was in Desperately Seeking Susan as well.

Darren: 00:06:35

He's in quite a bit of stuff in that period and I can't think of anything.

Paul: 00:06:38

Yeah, he pops up, but yeah, like.

Marc: 00:06:40

I said, recognizable face.

Darren: 00:06:41

Like he came up and I was.

I know who you are, but I don't know why.

Paul: 00:06:45

Well, I always think of him now as the boss in elementary because he was good in that with Johnny Lee Miller and Lucy Liu.

Marc: 00:06:50

And if you haven't seen the movie, one of the highlights is definitely midnight margaritas.

Darren: 00:06:53

Yeah.

Paul: 00:06:53

Yes.

Marc: 00:06:54

But we'll leave you to watch.

If you want to know what that is, you have to watch it.

Okay, thank you, gentlemen.

Let's move on to part two, which is the unboxing.

Boiler Warning ahead.

We're going to be revealing some of the plots here as we unbox this movie.

So if you decided you do want to go and watch it, go and do so and come back.

So let's begin with.

What did you miss?

I am going to go over to the horn section.

Darren: 00:07:17

I really got that much for this one.

I don't think there was a great deal going on.

Sorry, Mark, I failed you.

I found my ancestors.

Paul: 00:07:26

Let's move on.

Darren: 00:07:28

So, yeah, let's keep this short and go home early.

What I found charming, though, is the esthetic of it.

And I think it's one an example of a movie where just the aesthetic can keep you hooked.

Marc: 00:07:37

Even that house was cool, right?

It's got.

The house was almost like a character in the movie.

Darren: 00:07:41

Yes.

Like.

And it's got a word.

Is it like New England something New England Aesthetic or something like that.

Paul: 00:07:47

I don't know.

Designer people know.

Darren: 00:07:48

Yeah, designer people know.

Paul: 00:07:49

They'd know the thing.

Darren: 00:07:50

But, yeah, it's totally.

It's.

And the fashion, particularly the aunt's dress.

To die for.

Yeah, it's a real kind of.

It just goes to show how much.

How important the vibe of a film can be.

There's actually, now I think about it, there's a lot of movies I like just because of the vibe.

Like Underworld.

You can't really argue that Underworld is a good movie.

I freaking love it.

But I think I love it because of the vibe.

Paul: 00:08:10

Is a good vibe.

And, like, I think this film, from what I can gather, was a bit of a mixed reception from critics and audiences.

It was kind of a mixed bag.

But then it got cult status.

And I think a big part of the cult status is it's that aesthetic of the film that's made people feel like, oh, it's.

It's autumn or the fall.

Fall, if you're in the States.

And it's that kind of cozy, magical.

Yeah.

Aesthetic.

Darren: 00:08:32

It's a really good time of year to watch it.

I think autumn, I think that definitely vibes in the other thing, which I don't think people are going to miss, but it feels like a very feminist film.

There's some absolute legends of acting in it, as you've said.

Like Stocker Channing, who I know best for West Wing.

And she was obviously that character in Greece that.

Why don't always forget her name.

Paul: 00:08:53

See, I normally remember it.

Rizzo.

Darren: 00:08:54

Yeah, Rizzo.

In Greece, Diane west is.

I mean, she's in tons of stuff, but I think I first came across her in Lost Boys.

Paul: 00:09:01

That's right.

She's the mum, right?

Darren: 00:09:03

Yes.

And she's fighting vampires there and here.

She's a witch.

Paul: 00:09:08

Yeah.

Darren: 00:09:08

And I just think that the.

The powerful answer is basically a matriarchy, isn't it?

Women are powerful.

And this whole thing where they're talking about witchcraft, which in the 90s had just peaked.

I feel like we talked about this on another show, but I don't know why.

Paul: 00:09:21

I think we did briefly at the end of the last show.

Darren: 00:09:23

Okay.

Paul: 00:09:24

When we're talking about this.

Darren: 00:09:25

Yeah.

So in the 90s, like, Wicca suddenly exploded.

Like, Waterstones would be stocking books on particular.

Particular Wiccan witchcraft, kind of Wiccan magic, I guess, and it'd be like Scott Cunningham and the Solitary Practitioner.

But they also had the Brian Ford books with like.

Yeah, like his fairy books and the Cottony fairy books.

And you'd start to get really beautiful illustrated things.

Paul: 00:09:46

He's the guy who did the labyrinth.

Yeah.

Marc: 00:09:48

Yeah.

Darren: 00:09:49

Like, that was just a total explosion in interest in, like, magic and Nicole.

A little bit kind of pastel, a little bit kind of.

Paul: 00:09:55

If we're talking 98, this is Buffy in its height as well.

Darren: 00:09:58

Totally.

Paul: 00:09:58

You've got Willow.

Willow and Tara on Buff.

Charmed.

Charmed.

Course.

So there's quite a bit of witchy stuff going on.

Darren: 00:10:04

You know, the origin of witches, a lot of the time, we think anyway, is they were just the wise women in the village and they were healers, and they could help you with an abortion or a difficult pregnancy, or they could help you with probably erectile dysfunction or give you herbs and stuff.

Marc: 00:10:17

Or just heal you.

Darren: 00:10:18

Oh, yeah.

And heal you.

But because they were wise, that they were the people the community would go to.

And apparently the church didn't like that.

And they were like, no, we've got to destroy these people and kill as many as we can.

Which is an absolute travesty.

But the witches, like, I know witches in real life, and they're the he.

Healers and the wise women and the people who look out for the community and really good.

And this feels like that depiction of witches.

And a lot of the time, witches are just flat out in.

You know, in the fictionalized version of them, they're flat out cursing people and fighting demons and stuff.

So this was a really nice.

Again, like, I'm gonna feel.

I think New England is the word, but this New England aesthetic, it really suits it.

So.

Yeah, you might have missed that.

Marc: 00:10:58

Interesting.

Darren: 00:10:59

Although the one thing about the feminism that I don't like is it is the curse is obviously related to love.

Marc: 00:11:05

And kissing, but it's also against men.

Darren: 00:11:08

Do you think?

Why is it against men?

Marc: 00:11:09

About men?

Sorry.

Darren: 00:11:10

Yeah, totally.

But it always bugged me with Paul helped me out here with original Supergirl.

Yeah.

Instead of trying to, like, save the planet from a monster or deal with Lex Luthor.

I know her thing about kissing a boy.

Paul: 00:11:23

I didn't quite understand the whole plot of Supergirl with Helen Slayer because I was too busy going like, wow.

Yeah.

Darren: 00:11:31

I know.

Paul: 00:11:31

Shallow as that is, I did watch it fairly recently.

And that whole.

The main plot of the Supergirl, like, the first half of the film feels like, okay, it's her discovering Earth and everything.

And then the second half with all the witchy stuff.

Yeah.

Darren: 00:11:43

And she just swoons over a boy.

Paul: 00:11:44

Yeah.

Darren: 00:11:45

Yeah.

Paul: 00:11:45

She seems to lose all of the first bit of the film.

Darren: 00:11:48

Whereas the new Supergirl, I'M a big fan of.

I like it.

But it is.

Feels like a very much more progressive version of it.

So.

Yeah, that's my.

I think this is really good representation of women.

And I mean, I would date Nicole Kidman in this.

I would date Sandra Bullock in this.

I would date Dan Weast in this.

And I'd be delighted to be with Stockar Channing in this.

Paul: 00:12:08

You're dating all the witches?

Darren: 00:12:09

Yeah, all the witches.

Marc: 00:12:11

What's a collection of witches called?

Darren: 00:12:13

I guess a coven, isn't it?

Wiccan Coven.

Paul: 00:12:15

Coven, yeah.

You can't date all of them.

You have to pick one.

Darren: 00:12:18

No, but I'd be happy with anyone.

Paul: 00:12:20

Oh, I see what you said.

Marc: 00:12:21

Not all at the same time.

Paul: 00:12:22

That's what I thought he was saying.

Darren: 00:12:24

Just strong, powerful women.

That's what we grew up with, right?

Paul: 00:12:26

Like pretty much.

Darren: 00:12:27

Yeah.

Princess Leia.

Marc: 00:12:29

Yeah.

Darren: 00:12:30

When she was, you know, badass, obviously.

Paul: 00:12:32

Marion Ravenwood.

Darren: 00:12:33

Ripley.

Nice.

Marc: 00:12:34

Yeah.

Darren: 00:12:35

Ah, Sarah Connor.

Paul: 00:12:36

Sarah Connor.

Good one.

Marc: 00:12:37

Strong.

Paul: 00:12:38

Even Rose from Titanic's pretty badass.

Darren: 00:12:40

Yeah, that feels like.

Later I felt like I was already forming fully formed.

Marc: 00:12:45

I read that this film is littered with references to other films.

I've only picked up a few here.

I don't notice anything.

I don't know if anyone's listening to this can send them in, but Mary Poppins, the Wizard of Oz, and Belle, Book and Candle, I don't know what that is.

Darren: 00:12:56

Okay.

Paul: 00:12:56

Apparently they actually talk about wizard of Oz in it at some point, don't they?

Like they reference it.

Sure they do.

Marc: 00:13:01

But apparently there's other ones littered without the.

With it throughout the film.

But I didn't have a chance to look them up.

If anyone's listening does know, let's let us know.

Anything else on what did we miss?

Paul: 00:13:09

I just feel like it's got this cult status because it's kind of this cozy film.

Darren: 00:13:13

Yeah.

Paul: 00:13:14

Because of, like we've said, the way it's shot and everything.

Some of it's very rom com.

And then one of the ones I didn't say at the start because I didn't want to give the game away with the murder and that whole side of it.

And that's why I kind of only hinted to the Frighteners there because when he starts coming back and the track, that was very Frightenersy.

But there's another film coming that I haven't seen the film of.

I've seen the musical of called Heathers and it feels like it's a real mix of styles sometimes.

Like it goes from kind of Genres, definitely.

It goes from like goofy rom com, daft faces to like death and exorcism.

Darren: 00:13:44

And also dark thriller as well.

Yeah, yeah.

If you, if you fell asleep and had a quick nap and woke up, you would think you're on to a different movie.

Paul: 00:13:52

Because when I was reading the thing, it's like.

Marc: 00:13:54

Yeah.

Paul: 00:13:54

Admixed reviews from the critics because they didn't like.

Like that.

Marc: 00:13:57

Yeah.

Well, obviously going on what you said, I've read that the critics, what they initially complained about was it's a mixture of romance, comedy, fantasy and darker material.

But later that's what kind of makes it distinctive.

Darren: 00:14:07

Yeah.

But also, even though we like to go to movies to be like, I want to watch a general genre movie, our lives are multiple genres.

Our lives are kind of melodramatic dramas.

They're comedies, They're.

Marc: 00:14:17

They change on a daily basis.

Darren: 00:14:19

They do, yeah.

Sometimes within the day.

Marc: 00:14:21

Yeah.

Paul: 00:14:22

See, apparently the writer had a dark version of the cut or something, but he's lost it now.

Lost to the world.

Darren: 00:14:27

It was based on a book by Alice Hoffman who did a couple of other books, like prequels.

You get to see the aunt's younger years in the books.

Well, you get to read them.

Paul: 00:14:35

That's cool.

Marc: 00:14:36

Yeah.

Is practical magic more popular now or sort of appreciated now than it was back in the day?

Darren: 00:14:41

Magic is picked up even more in recent years.

I think.

I think in the 90s it felt a little bit niche, but it was out there.

Now it feels like it's all around.

Marc: 00:14:50

It's all a bit like supernatural kind of stuff.

Darren: 00:14:52

Yeah.

I'm curious.

Curious as to why it's happened.

I think people just want to feel like they have agency in their life.

And I.

And whether it's psychological or whether it's like spiritual or energy or whatever it is, you know, if.

If you can do a spell and say, I really want to bring love into my life by doing the spell, you're going to be more confident, you're going to put yourself out there, you're going to start looking for opportunities to find love, which means you're going to find love.

So the psychological version, like as a mind hack works as well.

Marc: 00:15:18

Placebo effect.

Darren: 00:15:19

Yeah.

Marc: 00:15:20

Yeah.

Darren: 00:15:20

But you know, unless you get full on experience with spirits and stuff.

I know my kid has said some very scary stuff, so I tend to believe in everything.

Marc: 00:15:28

Fair enough.

Anything else on what did we miss?

Paul: 00:15:31

I'm just gonna say it's interesting that they have made a sequel this far on.

It'll be interesting to see how that does because it sounds like early reviews are similar to the original, where the critics aren't quite.

Darren: 00:15:41

But it's the cycle we talked about.

Like, that's why we weren't sure about he man, because they were.

It was still dipping into the 80s.

We're now in the night.

We're now.

What's it so 40 years, 30 years.

So the people who were young when those movies landed are now in places where they can direct or produce.

So now they're going back to the things they loved.

That's my theory.

Tom Cruise is trying to do Days of Thunder, which I think is probably a few years too late.

Marc: 00:16:06

I did see that.

Yeah.

Paul: 00:16:07

But he's throwing Anne Hathaway in it.

Marc: 00:16:09

A pregnant.

Yeah, yeah.

Paul: 00:16:10

I'm guessing she won't be pregnant by the time she's Days of Thunder in,.

Darren: 00:16:13

Though I'm guessing Nicole Kidderman didn't want to work with her ex husband.

Paul: 00:16:16

Yeah, No, I don't think she'll be cameoing in that, will she?

Darren: 00:16:18

No, she will not be Anne Hathaway's.

I mean, I don't know what the politics is, but.

Oh, that doesn't feel like supporting your sisters.

Okay.

Tom Cruise calls you don't be in my movie.

Oh, yeah, the movie you were in with your wife.

Like, don't you want to cast her?

No, she's dead to me.

Marc: 00:16:35

Oh, maybe she asked her.

She said no.

Darren: 00:16:36

Yeah, maybe.

Marc: 00:16:37

Maybe he's dead to her.

Darren: 00:16:39

Maybe she was like, anne, can you do me a favor, please get Tom off my back.

Just go do this movie.

Take one for the team.

Paul: 00:16:45

But it's funny we talk about casting because I started realizing that one of the young kids.

I forgot her name.

Now she's an actress.

Darren: 00:16:52

Evan Rachel Wood.

Paul: 00:16:53

Thank you.

And I was like, oh, well, Evan Rachel Wood surely will be in the sequel because she still acted.

Darren: 00:16:58

No, there's politics around that, isn't it?

Paul: 00:17:00

No.

Darren: 00:17:00

Apparently she wasn't asked.

Paul: 00:17:01

Recasted because they wanted the ages of the daughters to be, like, just out of college, younger.

Whereas Evan Rachel was now older.

And the other lass who played the other daughter.

Marc: 00:17:10

It's been a long time.

Yeah.

Paul: 00:17:12

So.

Or they didn't get.

Darren: 00:17:13

Well, it's like Caster was a different character.

Yeah.

Paul: 00:17:15

So I'm a bit annoyed at that.

Marc: 00:17:17

Yeah.

It would be like Top Gun Maverick if they didn't cast what's her face in it.

Long dark hair.

Paul: 00:17:22

Jennifer Conley.

Marc: 00:17:22

Yeah, that would have been weird if it, like, recast her as well.

He wasn't in the first one, but he wasn't if you've got an image of someone and then you'd like to see them when they're older.

Paul: 00:17:32

Kelly McGillis is not going to be happy with you saying that, but.

Yeah.

Marc: 00:17:37

Well, I get what you're saying, though.

It's nice to have that.

Like, you can see that that's them.

Paul: 00:17:40

And we're in spoiler territory.

So I will throw this in now while we're talking about casting.

So straight away I'm like, oh, it all ends happily.

Everyone leads on and up feeling, I wonder if Aiden Quinn's in the sequel.

No, he didn't get the call either, Even though he'd have loved to do it.

Darren: 00:17:52

Yeah, he would do, because I imagine he's not, is he?

Why is this elementary?

Is that the Sherlock thing?

Paul: 00:17:57

Yeah.

Marc: 00:17:57

All right.

Darren: 00:17:57

Okay.

So he is working.

Paul: 00:17:59

Oh, yeah.

He does various things, but yeah, he said, oh, I'd love to have done the sequel.

But they didn't call because again, they.

Marc: 00:18:04

They've got a certain age demographic, they want a profile.

Paul: 00:18:07

Spoiler alert for the sequel.

But there's a reason he's not in it, which is because he's dead.

So that put me off C in the sequel because I'm like, well, the whole point of the first film was they kind of beat the curse.

Darren: 00:18:18

Yeah.

Paul: 00:18:18

And now they're gonna be like, nah, we didn't.

Oh, well, Brett, con that.

Marc: 00:18:22

Oh, dear.

Paul: 00:18:23

Cast the daughters.

So I was quite excited to see the sequel.

And now I'm a bit like, no,.

Darren: 00:18:27

I didn't watch the Hocus Pocus sequel either.

No.

Paul: 00:18:30

Sometimes the best left in the bubble over there.

Marc: 00:18:33

Anything else before we move on?

Darren: 00:18:34

I think we did pretty well considering we'd said we'd got nothing.

Paul: 00:18:38

He always pulls it out of the bag.

Marc: 00:18:39

Yeah.

Okay.

Thank you, gentlemen.

That takes us perfectly sliding two footed right into Paul's Facts of the Day.

Paul: 00:18:47

Sliding, you say?

Darren: 00:18:48

Ooh.

Paul: 00:18:49

So the entire house that we were talking about, it was a specifically built architectural shell that was torn down after filming.

It was built on rented land and even the blossoms on the trees are fake.

Made of silk.

Marc: 00:19:00

Yeah.

Did I read that the outside is obviously a house, but the insides on a set?

Paul: 00:19:04

Well, this is what they're saying.

They're saying this specifically, Billy, as I said.

Marc: 00:19:07

So like a sound stage kind of thing.

Yeah.

Paul: 00:19:10

And thinking about that, it's got Tim Burton vibe I never thought about before until now.

Darren: 00:19:14

It's got.

One of the producers is Denise Denovi.

Paul: 00:19:17

Yes, of course.

And she did Batman Returns and she works with Tim.

And a lot of Stuff with Tim Burton.

Marc: 00:19:22

So.

Which means someone has specifically designed that house to look a certain way.

It's not just.

They just found it like on location.

Paul: 00:19:28

Ben Stiller and his Mrs.

I can't find the fact in front of me, but I remember this.

This when I was looking before.

Oh, I found it.

Just as I've said it.

Production designer Robin Standifer created all the interiors for the home, which resulted in a new career as an in demand interior decorator.

Ben Stiller and Christine Taylor asked him to remodel their home after watching the film.

So you're not wrong about the aesthetic.

Suddenly all of the Hollywoods iconic.

And you must have had a new lease of life doing that as well.

Marc: 00:19:56

Excellent.

Paul: 00:19:56

We talked about this actor the other week on something else, but.

But Timothy Oliphant.

Darren: 00:20:00

Yeah.

Paul: 00:20:01

ast in the film Go, which was: 1999

Darren: 00:20:08

Why was he fired?

Paul: 00:20:09

Doesn't say.

Darren: 00:20:09

Couldn't find Traversy.

Well, he would have sold everything really quickly and these witches would be in prison.

Paul: 00:20:14

Exactly.

Darren: 00:20:15

Timothy Oliphant would have been a competent detective, not somebody who makes out with witnesses.

Paul: 00:20:22

Yeah, that got a bit weird, didn't it?

But he ended up staying in his same LA hotel room that had been booked originally for him in Practical Magic whilst he was filming.

Go.

Darren: 00:20:30

Oh, nice.

Marc: 00:20:31

Timothy Olyphant was fired from Practical Magic because he was too young for the part and he felt he was terrible in the role after a few days of rehearsal.

Darren: 00:20:38

I kind of feel that when they hired him, they might have known his.

Paul: 00:20:41

Age, you would think.

Marc: 00:20:44

ed at the very Last minute in: 1998

After rehearsing for a couple of days, he realized he was a bad fit and simply not right for the part.

He was let go and unceremoniously replaced by Aidan Quinn just as he was heading to the airport.

There we go.

Paul: 00:21:01

Gotta hurt.

Darren: 00:21:02

It's a really heartbreaking industry.

Paul: 00:21:04

Pretty ruthless, right?

Darren: 00:21:05

Yeah.

Paul: 00:21:05

So we were talking about the outfits before.

This will come as no surprise, but when it came to Francis and Jet's timeless wardrobe, Stockard Channing said the costume designers took inspiration from Stevie Nicks from Fleetwood Mac, which makes sense because she's all over the soundtrack quite a bit as well, I think.

Darren: 00:21:21

And kind of.

I always think of her as a bit of a feminist icon, but I don't know why.

Marc: 00:21:24

Why?

Paul: 00:21:24

Because she's a legend, probably.

Darren: 00:21:25

Yeah, totally.

Paul: 00:21:26

According to co writer Akevia Goldsman.

The director's cut was a darker take on the material, and due to the marketing of Warner Brothers and extensive editing, it finally ended up a different version.

Goldsman lost his copy of the original cut, like I said, so I wonder if that's still knocking around.

I know, it's always a shame.

Marc: 00:21:43

Back in the night, we're talking tape, not like something deleted on a hard drive.

Paul: 00:21:46

And although they had no prior connection, the movie's director, Griffin Dunn, said that Sandra Bullock and Nicole Kidman exacted exactly like sisters on the set, even though they'd never met before then.

Darren: 00:21:57

It feels like they're part of that whole kind of Oceans, Ocean's Eight crowd of these just women who hang out and have each other's back.

And I. I like that.

Paul: 00:22:05

So when Sally runs to Michael, this kiss by Faith Hill plays.

By the way, who would not want Sandra Bullock running down.

Darren: 00:22:13

She's wearing those shorts.

I bet she's got boots on.

I can't even remember.

Paul: 00:22:16

I don't know.

Just like, wow, that's a dream right there, isn't it?

So you know Sandra Bullock's running towards you.

This kiss is playing by Faith Hill.

dman in the Stepford wives in: 2004

And he would go and play Sandra Bullock's husband in her Oscar winning role in the Blind side.

It's as if it's all magically connected.

Darren: 00:22:40

Even though this movie's got two really attractive stars, I don't ever remember it leering.

Like the camera never.

Never really layered or sexualized them at all.

Paul: 00:22:48

No, no, really?

Marc: 00:22:49

No, it didn't.

Which was good because it wasn't about that.

It didn't need to be.

Darren: 00:22:52

No.

But even if it isn't about it,.

Marc: 00:22:54

The male gaze wasn't really a part of it, which is good.

Darren: 00:22:57

Totally.

And this is something that we talk about as guys, that there's this kind of belief of what guys are looking for, what is attractive.

And it doesn't feel to sink, like it doesn't feel like men and women always sync up, but them looking adorable in their kind of pajamas, basically dancing around the kitchen.

Marc: 00:23:13

Men want to see that.

Darren: 00:23:13

That's it.

Paul: 00:23:14

Yeah.

Marc: 00:23:15

Just as much as anything else.

Yeah, absolutely.

Paul: 00:23:17

That was the scene you referred to in the opener.

Darren: 00:23:19

Yeah.

Paul: 00:23:19

Thing.

The margarita thing, which I can give you a fact on, because according to Sandra Bullock, in the commentary, in the scene where they get drunk with their ants and they sling insults, the actresses actually got drunk.

Marc: 00:23:31

Yeah.

I'VE got that.

That's the only one I've kept in here.

Yeah.

Paul: 00:23:33

Yeah.

They were drinking some very bad tequila that Nicole Kidman brought.

Marc: 00:23:37

Yeah.

I've also got the dancing wasn't heavily choreographed either.

Much of it developed naturally during the shoot as more drinks were drunk.

Paul: 00:23:44

Well, we love it.

I think.

Marc: 00:23:45

Ye.

It was very natural.

Paul: 00:23:47

Yeah.

Marc: 00:23:47

Like, they just look.

They're just a family having a good time.

Very authentic.

Paul: 00:23:49

Okay, one more for the final scene with all the townspeople at the Owens home.

The entire population of the town where filming took place were invited to show up in costume and appear as towns.

Fuck.

I'm guessing they costumed them, but, yeah, it was the people who live locally that they dressed up and got them involved in the movie.

Which is pretty cool, isn't it?

If you imagine, you know, the film in a movie down the road and you're like, I want to see what's going on.

Well, you can come on this day and get filmed.

I'm in.

Marc: 00:24:15

That's cool.

Paul: 00:24:16

Can I come on the day where Sandra Bullock's running down the road so I can, you know, jump in front of her?

Marc: 00:24:20

Yeah.

Did we mention who from the original is gonna be in the sequel?

I've got it.

Here's only three.

Sandra Bullock, Nicole Kidman, and Stockholm Channing.

Paul: 00:24:26

No, Diane, I think Dan Wet.

Marc: 00:24:30

Yes.

Paul: 00:24:31

She's in as well.

So the two aunts, two sisters are in it.

And then obviously the daughters that were in the original are in it, but they're being played by Maisie Williams.

Marc: 00:24:40

Joey King.

Paul: 00:24:40

Joey King.

Rather than.

Because that was the ages they wanted.

Marc: 00:24:43

So he pulled them out of his head.

I only knew that because right in front of me on Google, I did.

Paul: 00:24:47

A lot of IMDb while watching it.

I was intrigued by the sequel.

Marc: 00:24:50

Yeah.

Thank you very much for your facts, Paul.

Okay, that takes us on to hate it or rate it.

And I'm gonna go to you, Paul, first, because it was your choice.

Paul: 00:25:01

It was my choice.

Do I like it?

I kind of like it.

Marc: 00:25:03

It's been a while since you've seen it?

Paul: 00:25:04

Been a long time since I've seen it.

I think I used to see bits of it.

It was one of them when my brother first got sky.

And that was one of the films on sky.

So I'd see bits of it.

And I saw.

And this is the first time I've seen it a long time.

Probably not my favorite rom com, but there is something about it that just got this whimsical, cozy.

And even when it gets really weird, when she Kills the guy.

And then there's the whole he's coming back to haunt.

I like the fact it shifts and goes a bit more frighteners.

I'd forgot that whole bit.

Like, I remember the bit with the margaritas, and I remember the flashbacks to the trials at the start.

I remember the curse.

So I remember, like, the key bits.

But I'd forgot the key bit.

All of the murder and him being the detective and all that.

But.

So, yeah, I enjoyed it.

Sandra.

It's hard for me to not like stuff with Sandra Bully, because she's so freaking adorable and likable.

And I like the fact you had the two sisters playing very different sort of characters, and that's what made it work.

You had Nicole Kidman as the wild child and Sandra is a bit more sensible one.

Marc: 00:25:59

And none of us like the Net.

Even.

Even Chandra Bullock couldn't say the Net.

Paul: 00:26:02

I gave her an extra point, I think.

I'm sure I give some extra points, but just being in a minute.

So, yeah, it was fun.

I like the relationship with the ants.

Reminded me very much of Sabrina the Teenage.

Teenage Witch.

The only thing it's missing is a talking cat, obviously, if you've seen Sabrina Tangerine.

But I'm gonna write it.

So I was thinking about writing it and I can't decide.

It's a fun film.

It's.

Marc: 00:26:21

It.

Paul: 00:26:22

I can see why it's a cult thing.

I can see also why people would watch it and be like, I don't get it.

It's kind of jumping all over the place a bit, rather than it being just a Brom Coma.

Just.

Marc: 00:26:30

It's definitely a nostalgia film.

If someone was.

Liked it back in the day.

Paul: 00:26:33

Yeah.

Like Darren said at the very start, it's very much about the feel of it, more so maybe than some of the other elements.

I'll give it a 6.4, I think.

No, screw it.

Let's give it a 6.5.

Marc: 00:26:46

Oh, big jump there.

Paul: 00:26:48

Well, you know, I like to really think about these things, but, no, it's a fun watch.

And it's.

I think it's.

I think the core of it is that relationship between Sandra and Nicole and.

Marc: 00:26:58

The rest of it is all 90s.

Yeah.

Paul: 00:27:01

I think I just enjoy being in the 90s.

Marc: 00:27:03

Yeah.

Paul: 00:27:03

I think that's where I got most of my enjoyment.

Marc: 00:27:05

Okay, I'll go next.

Is this my kind of genre?

No.

Did I like it?

No, no, it was okay.

I mean, I did like.

Like, I like the 90s aspect of it.

Well, it was very.

I like the style of it.

I liked there were some intense scenes in this, like, particularly Sandra Bullock.

Paul: 00:27:21

You wouldn't expect it from this kind of thing.

Marc: 00:27:23

No, there's some very heavy, like, intense scenes and some good action acting.

Some really good acting because obviously there's good actors in it.

But it was just really weird and just got just like.

I just couldn't figure out what's going on.

And I just like, we're doing what now?

Paul: 00:27:35

You love your magical fantasy stuff, don't you?

Marc: 00:27:38

Not really, though.

Paul: 00:27:40

I'm still laughing at the crow where you're like, he came back to life.

Well, I'm done three minutes in.

Marc: 00:27:44

Yeah.

It was a bit confusing, a bit convoluted, which is two in a row now where I've gone.

I don't even know what's going on.

That's two movies in a row, Akiva, last week.

Paul: 00:27:51

And don't forget, there's a lot of inappropriate detective work going on.

I meant to say that.

Marc: 00:27:56

Oh, yes.

Paul: 00:27:56

Where you're like, very questionable.

Can't do that.

Marc: 00:27:58

No.

Really.

But yeah.

So there was some.

Some.

Anything with, I mean, Sylvester.

Alan Sylvester's music in it.

Paul: 00:28:04

Yes.

Oh.

One of the facts.

Darren: 00:28:05

Which.

Paul: 00:28:05

I can go for it.

It was originally done with someone else's music completely.

I forgot his name.

I won't look up now because it'll take time.

But it was originally done with someone else's music completely.

They tested it on audiences and they thought it didn't quite fit.

So they then got Alan in.

Marc: 00:28:18

Wow.

Paul: 00:28:18

Alan did the music for it to the point of.

I think they'd already printed some of the original soundtrack and then the up to kind of repress.

Marc: 00:28:26

Okay.

Paul: 00:28:26

Get Alan on the case.

Marc: 00:28:27

Yeah.

But for me it still wasn't enough to save this movie.

Paul: 00:28:29

Okay.

Marc: 00:28:31

There's a couple of lines.

Like there was one.

Well, you know, ever since I was a little girl, I've always wanted to see inside your house.

I'm like, what?

Why?

Makes no sense.

Darren: 00:28:39

New England aesthetic.

They wanted in.

Marc: 00:28:42

Yeah.

And when they.

There's times when like they're drinking and doing the spells and like all this grown up stuff.

Where are the kids?

The kids.

Just one minute the kids are there, next minute, nothing thing.

Just no, no child care.

And they're just banished somewhere.

Yeah.

I didn't buy into the whole premise of what they were doing.

It was a bit all over the place.

Yeah.

Just not for me.

So I'll give it a. I'll give it a 4.7.

Paul: 00:29:01

Fair enough.

Marc: 00:29:01

Mainly for the acting and the aesthetics and the Vibe.

But yeah, generally the premise wasn't for me.

Over to you, Darren.

Darren: 00:29:07

Yeah, it's a mess.

It's.

It's.

It's heartbreaking.

Paul: 00:29:10

I hate when he does this.

He reels you in.

Darren: 00:29:12

It moves too fast.

It just moves way too fast.

They try and do too much, so they throw in the love interest out of freaking nowhere.

And that's a guy I recognize.

That actor, the first husband, whatever his name is.

Was that Michael?

That was Mark Feuerstein or something like that.

He was in like In Her Shoes.

Paul: 00:29:30

And that's what he's in.

He's in quite a few rom com sorts.

Darren: 00:29:33

Yeah, totally.

Like, he's a named actor.

Don't.

Does he even speak in it?

Paul: 00:29:36

No.

Darren: 00:29:36

Right.

So it's like, oh, something in the wind has happened.

I'm gonna run and marry this guy.

Based on what?

Paul: 00:29:43

Because of the spell.

Cast.

Cast from Stockholm Challenge.

He did the spell.

Darren: 00:29:47

But in order for us to have the emotional impact of him dying, we need to believe in that relationship.

So, yeah, we needed to see them fall in love.

Even though it's make the spell making them fall in love, you should still see that process we did.

Paul: 00:30:00

It just happened very quickly, too fast,.

Darren: 00:30:02

And I didn't care.

And the genres change way too much and it's just dumb.

And it's not enough backstory for.

Nicole Kidman's character agreed to go off and be self destructive and to be like, oh, I'm gonna go off with this height of douchtum, the.

The king of all douches.

She's like, oh, no.

I've met this guy who's clearly a dick and is clearly going to be bad for you.

I'm amazed it takes it that long for him to be a dick.

Marc: 00:30:28

Height of doucheb.

There you go.

That's a new one.

Darren: 00:30:31

Of all douches and that's not believable.

And then the cop rocking up being like, hey, I'm here to investigate.

Oh, that's okay.

I'll just stay here and help with the cooking and doing the washing up.

Paul: 00:30:39

I did write that was a bit weird, unprofessional.

Darren: 00:30:41

And then I'll just kiss you out of nowhere while I'm investigating a horrendous sleep.

Yeah, it is.

No, like, the only thing they talked about there was no.

Yeah, they talking about something that they've got in common.

And he's weird, obsessive, stalkerish, reading of the letter that has nothing to do with the case.

And there's a story she wrote as a child.

I've read that a thousand times.

Okay, I get that you're the police.

Marc: 00:31:05

Did you ever find out what was in the letter?

Darren: 00:31:07

Yeah, it was just her spell of the kind of guy she wanted.

Marc: 00:31:10

Oh, that was it.

Yeah.

And she deliberately made it like someone she'd never be able to find so that she would never be disappointed.

Darren: 00:31:14

And he's like, that's me.

I'm that special.

My ego says I'm gonna pull here.

Marc: 00:31:18

Green eye, blue eye.

Darren: 00:31:19

And I always think that because he's got quite a lot of confidence.

Like he walks up and he's.

I wonder what this girl looks like.

And then she, he meets her and it's Sandra Bullock.

And he's there.

I've still got a chance.

It's like, dude.

Marc: 00:31:28

Yeah.

Darren: 00:31:28

Mid white men just taking their chances.

Marc: 00:31:31

You're right.

It's like you think the spells and all that would be the most unbelievable.

But it's the, it's the relationship, dude.

I believe it's so unbelievable.

Darren: 00:31:39

I believe in the magic all day long.

I love whales like that.

I would have happily believe in all that.

I, I, yeah.

But the story was just freaking ridiculous and didn't make sense.

And even when they, when they kill him the second time, call the police.

Like call the guy now.

But he rocked up here and tried to kill her.

So I whacked him with this pan and we're safe now.

Thank you.

Marc: 00:32:00

Yeah.

That is the truth.

Paul: 00:32:02

Faith Hill kicks in.

Is this the way the end of film?

Darren: 00:32:05

Yeah, exactly.

But having said all that, there was a line I really loved as well as one of the aunts said it.

Who are the sages who I would be living my life in accordance with from now on.

It was being normal is not necessarily a virtue.

It rather denates a lack of courage.

And I like that.

Free to be yourself.

So yeah.

And also that whole death watch beat or sometimes I think because I seem to be prone to having short term relationships from now on I'm going to be like at month three and be like, I can hear the death watch beetle.

This relationship is going to end soon.

By my hand is admittedly, you are the death.

Marc: 00:32:40

You'll be in bed together and you'll be like, did you hear that?

Darren: 00:32:43

It's time for you to go.

Marc: 00:32:47

That's the sound of your suitcase packing itself.

Darren: 00:32:49

Yeah.

But having said that, I, I liked it and I think the aesthetic is good.

Paul: 00:32:56

You're taking me on a roller coaster here.

Darren: 00:32:58

I like those characters.

I love all four.

And there's very few this heavily female led movies that are Kind of fun.

Like it's basically a genre movie.

I don't think it's a romantic comedy, though.

I don't know what it is.

It is.

It's.

Paul: 00:33:09

I don't think it knows what it is.

Marc: 00:33:10

No.

Darren: 00:33:11

No.

Because there's no, like, rushing to the.

The wedding to stop the wedding.

Paul: 00:33:15

There's no watch at the end and it's like, oh, he's there.

Darren: 00:33:18

There's no saki best friend giving him.

There's no misunderstanding.

Marc: 00:33:22

There's too many things in the cauldron.

Darren: 00:33:24

Yeah.

Paul: 00:33:25

See what he did there?

Darren: 00:33:27

So, I mean, I can't in all good conscious, give it over five, because for every scene that I thought was charming, there's a scene that I was.

I thought was shite.

But I'll go in at 4.6.

Marc: 00:33:37

Oh, very close to me.

One less than I gave.

Darren: 00:33:41

It's 1 hour 46, so I figured, okay, 4.6.

Marc: 00:33:45

That's the poor logic that by years.

Paul: 00:33:48

We had a question about how we rate these movies randomly.

Is the answer yes.

Darren: 00:33:52

Whatever number I see while I'm sitting here trying to stay awake, it just.

Paul: 00:33:57

Flashes up in front of us.

Darren: 00:33:58

It is.

Marc: 00:33:58

We're all.

We're all very busy people, and sometimes we're tired when we get here.

I just found the whole thing ridiculous and very unbelievable.

Darren: 00:34:04

But it's like I said, like, if you're watching in autumn, you're with a lot.

A loved one or like a sister or really good friends alone, and you're under a big blanket.

Otherwise you're drinking a pumpkin spice latte.

Like, this is.

This is an aesthetic movie.

This is good.

Marc: 00:34:17

Yeah.

Darren: 00:34:18

It feels like you could be wrapping.

I was gonna say Halloween presents or decorating for Halloween.

While this is on in the background, it's.

It's definitely got its place.

Paul: 00:34:25

And I think that's why I enjoyed it.

It was the 90s fall autumn ball, and I'm seeing lots of people excited about, like, on Instagram, about the new one because of that fact.

Marc: 00:34:35

Fact.

Darren: 00:34:35

Yeah.

Paul: 00:34:35

Oh, I'm gonna get my pumpkin spice latte and watch it.

So I get it.

Darren: 00:34:39

And it's nice how the whole community come together.

And it also kind of goes to show that sometimes people just don't like what they understand.

Or they don't like clubs that they can't join, but when they're like, hey, you should.

Marc: 00:34:50

They don't like what they don't understand.

You mean?

Darren: 00:34:52

Yeah, they don't like what they don't understand, and they don't like what they're not allowed to join.

So when they're, like, part of.

Yeah.

It's like, would you want to join us?

Oh, can I?

Oh, then witchcraft's okay.

Paul: 00:35:02

That was all a bit weird how they all rock up and they're all suddenly best mates.

Like, oh, they've asked us to come at the party.

It's like, really?

You've been like bitches to them.

Well, some of them weren't.

Some of them were like the mates.

But, yeah, the other ones, you were.

Darren: 00:35:14

Like, really Also don't believe that the answer would have let the community turn on them to that degree.

They would have shut down that community within the first week.

They'd be.

What do you mean?

You got an issue with us?

No, I don't think you do.

Paul: 00:35:23

Boom.

Marc: 00:35:24

No, you don't.

Practical magic ended with 15.8 in total, which puts it 67th out of 87.

So not a great.

Not a great.

It's way down on the league.

Paul: 00:35:34

What's the sandwich?

It's between.

Marc: 00:35:36

h is it's just above Superman: 2025

Darren: 00:35:43

Sliding Doors was probably a bit more consistent.

I think this has got better scenes for sure.

Marc: 00:35:49

An overall style and feel entirely.

Paul: 00:35:51

I will stand on my Sliding Doors.

Darren: 00:35:53

Hill didn't have the drag factor or whatever that guy's name was.

Jimmy.

Yeah.

Paul: 00:35:58

In Sliding Doors.

Darren: 00:35:59

No.

Yeah, Sliding Doors didn't have the drag factor with Jimmy.

Paul: 00:36:03

Oh, I see what you mean.

Darren: 00:36:03

Jimmy was, I mean, a good actor, I guess, because he was paid like dick really well.

But.

Marc: 00:36:08

Okay, there we go.

So that's what we thought of the movie.

We would love to know your thoughts and opinions and your own personal ratings out of 10.

So send them in and we'll read some of that on the show in our back catalog.

Episodes that we have done in the past that maybe.

Maybe a good follow up to this or related to movies that also might be worth a watch.

Maybe say, say, notting hill.

Darren: 00:36:26

Yeah.

100.

Not in here even.

About time.

Marc: 00:36:28

Yeah, about time.

Yeah.

Or the Holiday.

Darren: 00:36:30

Yeah.

Yeah.

Holiday's got a good aesthetic as well.

Paul: 00:36:32

Yeah, it's a good Christmassy one.

You could watch this in the autumn.

And then Holiday.

Marc: 00:36:37

Yes.

We'll just have the festive double bill there.

Paul: 00:36:40

Festive double bill.

Marc: 00:36:40

Nice.

Okay, thank you, gentlemen.

That takes us into part three, the lobby.

Okay, as always, let's start with our inbox.

Darren: 00:36:52

Let's hear from our fans.

Marc: 00:36:53

Okay, so first message there as Darren's having some coke.

Some of your sound effects do sound like that.

Paul: 00:37:03

Anyway, no substances are being he.

He's got just so you know listeners because they'll be thinking all kinds of stuff.

Now Darren's rocking the Coca Cola, zero sugar.

Cherry.

Darren: 00:37:14

Yeah, gotta go cherry.

Marc: 00:37:15

Cherry's amazing.

Paul: 00:37:16

So any sponsorship for that?

Marc: 00:37:17

I'm.

Paul: 00:37:18

I'm rocking the Highland Sports Spring still spring water.

So I need sponsorship for that.

Marc: 00:37:21

I'm rocking the official movies in a nutshell mug with my name on it,.

Paul: 00:37:24

Not available from anywhere.

Marc: 00:37:26

With a nice strong coffee.

But didn't coke used to have cocaine in it?

Darren: 00:37:29

Yeah, originally Coca Cola.

Marc: 00:37:32

Interesting.

Paul: 00:37:32

That really is a Diet Coke breaker.

Marc: 00:37:34

Anyway, here's the first one, lads.

Because of you, I just spent two hours of my life being equally amazed and confused, thinking to myself, what the is going on?

Then I listened to the episode and it turns out you were all equally as confused as I was about Akira.

With that in mind, maybe that was part of the intention from the writers and the creators.

Either way, I think you now need a hashtag going forward for this type ofmovies.

Hashtag WTF?

Igo.

What.

What Figo.

Paul: 00:37:59

What the is going on?

Marc: 00:38:00

Yeah, love the episode.

Keep up the excellent work.

That's from Matt Arju in Milton Keynes.

Darren: 00:38:05

It was based on like a manga series, wasn't it?

So the graphic novel would have way more detail.

Detail.

So I don't know.

Paul: 00:38:11

Yeah, I think part of the fun of that film is going, what the is going on?

Darren: 00:38:14

It's just me playing on big screens in nightclubs.

That's what I said.

Yeah, I said what I said.

Marc: 00:38:21

And on our socials, Matt McSolly said, when watching Akira, you realize why it's taking decades and different directors to even attempt a live action adaptation and considered untouchable, slash unfilmable, no matter how many rewrites they attempt.

Paul: 00:38:35

Yeah, that's a good point.

Marc: 00:38:37

There's so many like to.

You can't really break it down.

You can't take this out, you can't simplify that.

Paul: 00:38:42

It's just going to cost a lot of money if they tried to do it.

Yeah, it's probably a lot.

It's probably doable with the technology now, but it's going to cost a lot.

Marc: 00:38:51

Of money and the tickets will be high ticket, high price.

Then also we had another email which I've told you about this before, you two, about this before, about a new app related to us.

Obviously they've.

They've emailed the right place, so I will tell you guys.

Paul: 00:39:03

Oh, the app.

Marc: 00:39:04

Yes, yes, I have not had time to look this up.

But anyway, good.

Paul: 00:39:08

I'll tell you when you tell us what it is.

Marc: 00:39:10

So.

Hello.

I recently made a free web browser game called Moviecast.

We'll put.

We'll put the link in the show notes as well and thought it might be a good fit for your audience, which I think it might link in the show notes, so I'll put that there.

You choose an era, a genre and a director.

Then you roll real films and draft actors from their casts to create completely fictional movies.

Each one is then released with its own critic score, box office results and awards.

If you've ever tried 820 or 38.

0 Game, I've never heard of either of them.

It's very similar to those shows, but instead of sports, it's movies.

I'm not asking or expecting any kind of mention or call out.

I generally just want to know what you think of it.

If you fancy giving it a go.

If not, no worries.

Thanks.

And that is from Darren, who is the creator of Moviecast.

Darren: 00:39:51

The excellent name.

Marc: 00:39:53

No, Darren.

D R A D R I N. So I think he's from Poland.

Darren: 00:39:58

Okay.

Marc: 00:39:58

The Polish version of Darren movie.

Paul: 00:40:00

I gave it a go.

Marc: 00:40:01

Yes.

What did you think?

Paul: 00:40:02

Yeah, it was fun.

It was funny.

Darren: 00:40:04

High pitch.

I think there's a butt coming.

It was fun.

Paul: 00:40:09

The only butt is.

But Darren would probably be better on this than me.

Some of the directors and stuff I hadn't even heard of.

Marc: 00:40:16

Okay.

Paul: 00:40:17

So he goes in to like real different kind of directors and things.

Marc: 00:40:20

Those are some of the big hitters there, though.

Paul: 00:40:21

Oh, yeah.

They were in the mix.

Darren: 00:40:23

Yeah.

I won an award because we cast Tom Hanks, but we got lucky.

But a lot of the time you'd go to director.

I think it was world cinema.

So it would go.

Or at least the settings I had were.

So sometimes you could have.

Did you ever go, yeah, so, so nice.

It'd be like, pick an actor.

I'm like, I have no clue who these people are.

It would even work maybe if it had a photo of them.

If you could add a photo.

Photo.

So you can be like, oh, yeah, I recognize that person.

Paul: 00:40:44

Yeah, yeah.

Marc: 00:40:44

And you could maybe picture a film that you've seen them in, which would give you more of a reference.

Darren: 00:40:47

I think it told you what films they were in.

But some of them I didn't recognize.

Marc: 00:40:50

Okay.

Paul: 00:40:50

Yeah, but that will explain it because mine must have been on world cinema as well.

Darren: 00:40:53

But as soon as I saw Tom Hanks, I was like, cast him.

Marc: 00:40:55

Boom.

Paul: 00:40:56

Cast him.

Darren: 00:40:56

We've got gold.

Paul: 00:40:58

Did it make money?

Darren: 00:40:59

I got money, won awards.

Paul: 00:41:01

A Bit of a mixed bag.

Some of mine made absolute bank and some of them did not.

Marc: 00:41:05

How does it.

Does it show your results?

Does it give you like.

Darren: 00:41:07

Yeah, that's what it could do with as well.

It could do with a bit more of a fan favorite care and something.

Marc: 00:41:12

That you could share like your socials or your friends and say, look, this is the movie I created.

This is what I got.

Can you do better than this?

That would be kind of cool.

Darren: 00:41:17

Yeah, that would be cool.

Paul: 00:41:18

Does it do that?

Darren: 00:41:19

I can't remember.

Marc: 00:41:20

Does it not?

Darren: 00:41:20

It was like two weeks ago.

Paul: 00:41:21

It might do that.

Marc: 00:41:22

I see.

I said that.

They got no reply so I assumed you guys hadn't done it.

Just did it and end up still playing it.

That's interesting.

I am going to have a go at that and definitely.

So I'll put it in the show notes.

Paul: 00:41:31

See, we do what I talk.

We do what we're told after all.

Marc: 00:41:33

And then we'll try and figure out where to put our results.

We'll put them on our socials as well.

So we're got.

Paul: 00:41:38

Yeah.

Marc: 00:41:38

Does it save them so you can go back and look.

Darren: 00:41:40

I can't remember.

Paul: 00:41:41

No, I don't think it saved them.

Marc: 00:41:42

And was it is available on like Android and Apple.

Do we know.

Is it in the normal stores where you.

Most people can get them?

Paul: 00:41:48

It's just website.

Darren: 00:41:48

Yeah, it's a website.

Marc: 00:41:49

Yeah, of course.

Paul: 00:41:50

Yeah.

Marc: 00:41:51

Ignore me.

Okay.

All right, we'll give it a go.

Paul: 00:41:53

All right.

Marc: 00:41:53

Thank you, Darren.

Darren: 00:41:54

That's okay.

Marc: 00:41:57

Question of the week.

We're going to put it out to listeners again.

We're going to ask you listening to this right now, have you got a question of the week?

A burning.

Well, it could be a movie question maybe related to practical magic or.

Or movies of that.

That ilk or doesn't have to be movie related.

Send us in.

Send us in some questions.

Paul: 00:42:10

Of course it has to be movie related.

Marc: 00:42:12

Does it?

Paul: 00:42:12

Well, I'm just saying that because it'd be easier for us to answer.

But yeah, it doesn't have to be.

Marc: 00:42:16

Maybe put us on the back foot, a curveball, something.

We go.

That's an interesting question.

Paul: 00:42:20

Yeah.

And then we can be like, no comment.

Darren: 00:42:23

Would Paul and Darren like to go on a blind date with me and my friend?

Paul: 00:42:26

No comment.

I'm unavailable that night.

That sounds a lot of stress that I don't need either.

Marc: 00:42:34

There we go.

So yeah, send us any questions.

We'll pick out some interesting ones and we'll read them out on the show.

Right.

Finally on to next week's movie, which is time to spin the wheel.

It is Field of Dreams.

Darren: 00:42:53

Oh, okay.

Paul: 00:42:54

Kevin Costner.

Darren: 00:42:56

Weird, because I think of him as being like the western guy, even though it's probably just dance History with the Waters.

But he's been a crap ton of baseball movies.

Paul: 00:43:03

They've done a few baseballs.

A golf film.

Yeah, he was Robin Hood, damn it.

Darren: 00:43:08

Yes.

And very good Robin Hood movie.

Marc: 00:43:10

So that was chosen by Carlson Stanton.

It's available on Netflix.

It's: 1989

Darren: 00:43:15

1989.

Marc: 00:43:16

Yeah.

Darren: 00:43:17

That does not look like an 80s movie.

Paul: 00:43:19

Late 80s Costner.

Darren: 00:43:20

Yeah.

Marc: 00:43:20

Which is before he did Robin hood.

Paul: 00:43:22

Yeah, yeah.

Marc: 00:43:23

1990.

Dances With Wolves.

Darren: 00:43:24

Jesus.

Paul: 00:43:26

Wowzers.

Darren: 00:43:26

Imagine being in Field of Dreams and then Robin Hood.

Marc: 00:43:29

Robin Hoodie one.

Paul: 00:43:32

So that was after To Dance with Wolves.

Marc: 00:43:33

Then I want to see Robin Hood Men in tights.

I've never seen that.

Paul: 00:43:36

Oh, okay.

Darren will love that one.

Marc: 00:43:39

Yes.

Paul: 00:43:40

Think of.

Think of Hot Shots.

Yeah.

Robin Hood.

I've seen that many times.

Although you might like it, Darren, because Cariel's in it.

Marc: 00:43:47

I mean, Robin Hood.

Looking at it now, looks another one like Frankenstein with a million different versions.

Paul: 00:43:52

Yeah, there is.

Well, there's another.

Marc: 00:43:53

Now there's like 10 here.

Paul: 00:43:55

Another one about to come out, isn't it?

Did you see it?

But yeah, they're definitely neighborhood.

Darren: 00:43:58

Yeah, it's a dark, dark, dark savage movie.

Marc: 00:44:02

That's.

Yeah, that's just come out.

Darren: 00:44:03

It's an art house movie though, so brace yourself.

Paul: 00:44:06

Being dark.

Marc: 00:44:06

Robin Hood: 2018

Robin Hood: 2010

Darren: 00:44:09

Yeah.

Marc: 00:44:10

Anyway, so that's next week's movie versus King Arthur.

Paul: 00:44:14

Don't give Netflix ideas.

Hold them in.

Marc: 00:44:17

And that brings us to the end of the show.

Thank you very much for listening.

Did you enjoy tonight, gentlemen?

Was that good?

How was it for you?

Darren: 00:44:23

It turned out better than I expected.

Marc: 00:44:25

Okay, there we go.

Yeah.

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Okay, this episode is officially over.

This is Mark saying goodbye.

Darren: 00:44:54

This is Darren saying goodbye from the.

Paul: 00:44:55

I wonder if it would work on.

Darren: 00:44:57

My ex husband that line and angered.

Marc: 00:44:59

The crap out of me.

Paul: 00:45:00

I knew it would.

Darren: 00:45:01

It does.