Ghostbusters - In A Nutshell
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Ghostbusters (1984) – In A Nutshell
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PART 1 – The Nutshell – If you haven’t seen it (SPOILER-FREE!)
A totally spoiler-free breakdown of the supernatural comedy that became a cultural landmark. The team explore the film’s tone, humour, pacing, world-building and the iconic characters that made Ghostbusters an enduring blockbuster.
By the end of Part 1, you’ll know whether this blend of paranormal chaos, sharp wit and 80s charm deserves a spot on your watchlist today.
PART 2 – The Unboxing – If you’ve seen it
What Did You Miss? →
A fun and insightful dive into the themes under the surface — from science vs. belief to ego, ambition and 80s social satire — plus how its analogue effects, creature work and improvisation shaped modern movie comedy.
Paul’s Facts of the Day →
The chaotic origins of the script, the casting that nearly went a very different direction, the on-set improv that changed entire scenes, and the behind-the-scenes secrets behind Slimer, Stay Puft and those iconic proton packs.
Hate It or Rate It? →
Marc, Darren & Paul drop their scores and officially place Ghostbusters in the Legend League.
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Hello and welcome to Movies in a Nutshell with me, Marc Farquhar, myself, Darren.
Speaker B:Horn, and I, Paul Day.
Speaker A:We help you spend less time browsing and more time watching.
Speaker C:If you've seen the movie, we'll reveal what you might have missed.
Speaker B:If you haven't, we'll give you a quick spoiler free breakdown.
Speaker A:We've got behind the scenes trivia, including Paul's facts of the day, host ratings.
Speaker C:And a legend league table, plus your.
Speaker B:Chance to choose a movie.
Speaker A:So grab some popcorn and let's jump into this week's movie.
Speaker A: Ghostbusters: Speaker A:This is Paul's pick.
Speaker B:Damn right it is.
Speaker A:We are in part one, which is the nutshell.
Speaker A:And in part one we break the movie down.
Speaker A:Spoiler free.
Speaker A:To help you decide today if Ghostbusters is your kind of film, if you're one of the minority who haven't seen it in a Nutshell, how do we break this down for someone who hasn't seen it?
Speaker A:Paul, I'll go to you because it's your choice.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:The nutshell is.
Speaker B:And it's really hard to do these when you've seen a film so many times, isn't it?
Speaker B:And step back.
Speaker B:But this is the fun of it.
Speaker B:So three scientists are basically kicked out of university and then they end up going into their own paranormal investigation, busting business themselves.
Speaker B:Pick up a new member of staff and it's the story of how they become the title of the thing.
Speaker B:Ghostbusters.
Speaker B:Within that there's various other storyline strands which we'll get into later.
Speaker B:But that's kind of it in a nutshell.
Speaker B:Yeah, but it's very much your Saturday Night Live crew, Bill Murray and Dan Aykroyd.
Speaker B:So it was meant to also be Eddie Murphy in there as well.
Speaker B:And I only watched Trading Places the other week and I'm like, oh, I can see why Jim Belushi and Jim Belushi, yeah.
Speaker C:Died away after Blues Brothers.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Somewhere around them, 80s.
Speaker C:Like a spiritual sequel to Blues Brothers.
Speaker C:He was like, Dan, I've quoted Jim Belushi up to adventures kind of like those old school like Bob Hope and Abbott and Costello movies.
Speaker B:Very.
Speaker B:It's kind of a very deadpan comedy.
Speaker B:So the only way I can say this is I grew up with this film and didn't actually realize it was a comedy until I was probably.
Speaker C:That's a serious point.
Speaker A:Because of it quite dark.
Speaker C:The opening scene is dark as hell.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:So I was about 12 and I read the back of the video case and it said one of the Most profitable comedies of all time.
Speaker B:And I went, I had to double take them comedies.
Speaker B:Ghostbusters, really.
Speaker B:And obviously you watch it now and it's hilarious, but it is worry deadpan.
Speaker B:And as a kid I just took everything seriously.
Speaker A: It's a: Speaker B:Yeah, it's a comedy, but it's a horror comedy.
Speaker B:So there's a lot of different elements in the mix.
Speaker B:It's the three guys, they're basically.
Speaker B:If you imagine people going to catch rodents.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:Pest control.
Speaker C:Pest control in the importance of getting the correct permits.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:But obviously it's with ghosts.
Speaker B:So there's the comedy element and the sci fi horror element.
Speaker A:I struggled with the meats.
Speaker A:So over the top I put Men in Black, meet Scooby Doo.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:So that's pretty good.
Speaker A:I'll go with that with a dash of Exorcist.
Speaker A:Yeah, unmistakable.
Speaker A:It's unmistakably 80s.
Speaker B:See, I didn't write down many of the meats either.
Speaker A:What movies could this be compared to, Paul?
Speaker A:See, and if there's not, if there's none, that's a good thing.
Speaker C:I mean, there's the Frighteners, which I guess is inspired by this.
Speaker B:That was a little bit later on, wasn't it?
Speaker B:Frighteners.
Speaker B:I think you're right, Scooby Doo.
Speaker B:But obviously that's a much kiddier friendly version of what we're talking about.
Speaker C:Maybe a little bit of Stranger Things.
Speaker B:Yeah, definitely a hint of Stranger Things and almost the Blues Brothers.
Speaker B:Just because of the tone, that kind of deadpan tone where things are happening to them.
Speaker B:They're quite deadpan, but obviously the things around them is quite crazy.
Speaker B:But yeah, I couldn't think of any more comparisons.
Speaker B:Frighteners is probably a good one, but that's probably a little known film compared to this, isn't it?
Speaker B:Peter Jackson's parapsychologists.
Speaker B:Is that what they are?
Speaker A:That's what they are.
Speaker B:Oh, there you go.
Speaker B:Parapsychologists.
Speaker A:Right, let's move on to part two, which is the unboxing.
Speaker A:In part two, the unboxing.
Speaker A:If you haven't seen Ghostbusters and we've helped you decide you want to watch it, pause here and go and watch it and then come back because from this point forward there will be spoilers.
Speaker A:So in part two we have what did you miss?
Speaker A:Where we'll highlight things you may have missed.
Speaker A:Even if you've seen the movie many times.
Speaker A:Paul has his amazing facts of the day and then we round off with Hate it or Rate it where we each give the rating out of a 10 brief opinion.
Speaker A:And then we see where the score lands on the legend league.
Speaker A:So let's begin with.
Speaker A:What did you miss?
Speaker A:I'm gonna go to you first, Darren.
Speaker C:Well, one thing is.
Speaker C:Is, like, it's a joke about pest control and the importance of permits, but it is pest control and the importance of permits.
Speaker C:They're dressed in, like, boiler suits.
Speaker C:There's a bit where they turn up at the hotel and they're like, what are you guys?
Speaker C:Oh, pest control.
Speaker C:Cockroaches.
Speaker C:Yeah, like, that must be some cockroaches.
Speaker C:Like, bite your head off, man.
Speaker A:And then when they come out, they're holding the thing like a trap.
Speaker A:Like, got a ghost in it.
Speaker A:But it could be either be a rat.
Speaker B:Oh, we can put it right back in there.
Speaker B:No, no, no, no.
Speaker B:We'll pay.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker C:Totally.
Speaker C:Then the main villain of the story is health and safety adult watching this again.
Speaker C:I'm kind of on the side.
Speaker C:They've got an unlicensed nuclear actor.
Speaker B:You become Walter Peck in your old age.
Speaker B:Oh, no.
Speaker C:Water Peck with a dick.
Speaker B:This man has no dick.
Speaker C:Yeah, Like, I'm actually kind of on his side.
Speaker C:It's like, yeah, he should be doing that job.
Speaker C:Thank God.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:But he still shouldn't be turning it off.
Speaker C:No, he shouldn't be.
Speaker B:I'm telling you now, don't turn it off.
Speaker C:And then it's the fact that you can't look to any authority or organized agency when the apocalypse is coming because they.
Speaker C:Where's the government in all this?
Speaker C:Like, the actual government just disappeared.
Speaker B:Well, the pope turns up and the.
Speaker A:Mayor is asking the Ghostbusters.
Speaker C:The mayor's asking the Ghostbusters.
Speaker C:Then.
Speaker C:Yeah, like, what would he be?
Speaker C:A Catholic kind of priest turns up and he's like, don't quote me on it.
Speaker C:But it's a sign for God from God.
Speaker C:It's like you are raping children on massive scale.
Speaker C:Your biggest fear right now, which is what the sequel should have been, is all these kids coming back from the grave and haunting the priests that killed them.
Speaker B:I don't think that would have got the family reign that.
Speaker B:I did miss that.
Speaker B:What did we miss?
Speaker B:I did miss that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Right now when he comes up and says, good to see you, lady.
Speaker B:I'm going to be like, holy.
Speaker C:It could have been dark.
Speaker C:That would have been.
Speaker C:They should have released this just after, like, spotlight.
Speaker C:And then it would have been heavy.
Speaker C:So anyway, on a lighter note.
Speaker B:Yeah, I didn't think we'd go there, actually.
Speaker C:No, not on a lighter note.
Speaker C:On a Darker note.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:And it get darker than that.
Speaker C:So when you're playing this as a kid, everyone wants to be a debankman.
Speaker C:Like I really shut everyone up.
Speaker B:Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker C:To be honest, it would have been even if the church had turned up with Exorcist and like supported them or something, you know?
Speaker C:But no, it's just like, yeah, there's ghosts.
Speaker C:I'm not going to say anything about it, though.
Speaker C:Don't even be in the film then.
Speaker C:Go away.
Speaker B:Tell us more about Venkman.
Speaker C:So Franklin's the guy we want to play, right?
Speaker A:He's the comedian.
Speaker C:Do you remember him being so predatory?
Speaker C:So obviously he's being predatory as a hell with his own students.
Speaker C:And I don't know what the age difference is.
Speaker A:Yeah, he was doing that one on one study with that girl.
Speaker A:The shock treatment thing.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:So then to bear with me with this train of thought, he then goes to Dana's apartment and Dana.
Speaker C:And he's being sleazy there.
Speaker C:But then when he returns and she's the key master or gatekeeper.
Speaker A:Gatekeeper.
Speaker C:She's a gatekeeper.
Speaker B:Rig Moranis is the key master.
Speaker C:And she's like, do you want this body?
Speaker C:And he's like, is this a trick question?
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:He then calls Egon and you know what he says?
Speaker A:Remind us.
Speaker C:He says something like, I've just given a 3,000 something something of whatever drug I've just injected her with.
Speaker C:A drug to knock her out.
Speaker C:Why is Peter carrying drugs around on.
Speaker A:To knock women out?
Speaker B:Well, he's a scientist, man.
Speaker B:Back off.
Speaker C:I was like, why?
Speaker C:What?
Speaker B:This is not the reading of this film I was going for.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:So I was a little bit concerned about that.
Speaker B:Just to knock out ghosts.
Speaker B:Clearly.
Speaker C:Knock out ghosts.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:You can't really inject ghosts though, can you?
Speaker B:I want to play Winston now.
Speaker C:Want to play Winston?
Speaker B:If there's a steady paycheck in it, I'll believe anything you say.
Speaker B:I love it.
Speaker C:Oh, I really like the fact that Gozer was gender fluid.
Speaker C:That's quite common with deities.
Speaker C:You know, like Loki's gender fluid and stuff.
Speaker C:And that's quite forward thinking for the 80s.
Speaker C:And she.
Speaker C:And I thought Goza was a guy.
Speaker C:It's like odd.
Speaker C:She's whatever she wants to be or it's whatever it wants to be.
Speaker C:That was a cool thing.
Speaker C:Also, the other important part of this is in the apocalypse, you got to work out.
Speaker C:Everyone's got to do a bit of exercise.
Speaker C:So keep your clothes in on your 50s or, you know, your 40s.
Speaker C:You need to be doing maybe couch to 5K.
Speaker C:Listen, lifting a couple of weights, something like that.
Speaker C:Because you've got to be fit, got.
Speaker A:To keep your body moving.
Speaker C:This is one of the key kind of outcomes of Zombieland when he's got to do cardio.
Speaker C:Like if you're in the zombie apocalypse, bit of cardio is important.
Speaker C:These guys can't climb 22.
Speaker B:But what you're saying here, Darren, is not only are you Walter Peck, you're also Rick Moranis.
Speaker B:Lewis Tully here with all his vitamins in his exercise class.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:You've become Lewis Tilly at the top of the building.
Speaker A:You would have to be fair.
Speaker C:The guys have a massive audience of New Yorkers.
Speaker C:Like Ghostbusters.
Speaker C:Ghostbusters.
Speaker C:And they're like, how many floors are there?
Speaker C:No, you can't.
Speaker C:You can't put that badge on and not be able to run up a couple of places.
Speaker C:More sit ups, less knocking women out with illegal drugs.
Speaker B:You see, Ray got it.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:Because he got the ghost seen to him when he was in his sleep.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And that was a seminal part of my adolescence.
Speaker B:I almost want to ask that.
Speaker A:It was written by Dan Aykroyd and Harold Ramis, two of the Ghostbusters.
Speaker A:Pretty cool.
Speaker B:So Dan Aykroyd did the original.
Speaker A:I didn't know that before this.
Speaker A:Before I looked at this time.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah, he did the original script, Dan Aykroyd.
Speaker B:It was set in the future.
Speaker B:It was gonna be like Ghostbusters was gonna be just like paramedics or whatever.
Speaker C:And it was pest control, basically.
Speaker B:Pest control and written there.
Speaker B:But then Ivan Reitman, director, and Harold Romis worked together with them to kind of bring it into the draft because apparently his first draft was massive and then they kind of pulled it.
Speaker B:But I think Blues Brothers was the same.
Speaker B:Dan Aykroyd just kind of used to go all out and then they used to sort of hone it back and pull it back.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And how would we miss had been in Stripes with Bill Murray.
Speaker C:So there's lots of links.
Speaker B:I don't think there was intent originally for him, a star in it.
Speaker B:But then they just figured he was the best guy.
Speaker B:He wanted to do it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Again, there was a couple of scenes where Michael Jackson's music is all over this.
Speaker A:Like the influence of his music is undeniable in the 80s.
Speaker A:There's a couple of scenes where the music's like, again, thriller.
Speaker A:It all comes in the basic beat of thriller.
Speaker B:Yeah, I get that.
Speaker A:I can't remember what scenes they were, but there's two scenes I remember going, that's just Michael Jackson.
Speaker A:Totally inspired Michael Jackson.
Speaker B:So when people talk about the favorite movie scenes of all time, people tend to say things with films that are highly acclaimed and things like that.
Speaker B:Yeah, mine is in this film.
Speaker B:I don't know why, but it gives me goosebumps every time.
Speaker B:Because when I was a kid, it was deadly serious.
Speaker B:And now, obviously, it's quite funny.
Speaker B:But the saving the day scene, where they go, okay, what do you need from me?
Speaker B:And then that thinking scene did do, saving the day kicks in, and he's like, come on, let's run some red lights.
Speaker B:And they all go down that street.
Speaker B:Goosebumps every time I see it.
Speaker C:And we've talked about, on other shows, the importance of showing the audience, like, showing what's at stake.
Speaker C:Like, we love it when we're all yelling like Ghostbusters.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Apparently on set it was electric because obviously these guys were like gods of snl.
Speaker C:And you loved him.
Speaker C:It's just amazing.
Speaker B:And I love the fact that some of the filming they did, they didn't actually even have filming permits.
Speaker B:They were just running around New York just filming some of those scenes.
Speaker C:I want to hear a sad story, a sad one.
Speaker B:Don't bring us down.
Speaker B:We're on a high, but go on if you must.
Speaker C:So this is directed by Ivan Reidman, who'd done like, Stripes and Obviously Ghostbusters.
Speaker C:Ghostbusters 2.
Speaker C:He then went on to do Groundhog Day.
Speaker C:And so.
Speaker B:No, that was Howard Romis.
Speaker A:How.
Speaker C:Yeah, sorry, it was.
Speaker C:How Dramas, you're right.
Speaker B:But Ivan Reitman did Evolution and some other things.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, you're right.
Speaker C:He and Bill Murray fell out massively on that movie.
Speaker B:Him and Harold.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker C:And then they didn't talk for ages.
Speaker C:And then Howard got a really bad, threatening disease, cancer, whatever it was, and was dying.
Speaker C:And Bill Murray flew to the city, didn't know where he lived, so he went to the police station and said, take me to Howard.
Speaker C:And they took him by police escort to Howard's house so they could make up before he died.
Speaker B:It's just sad that it took so long for them to make up.
Speaker C:That's what his daughter was saying.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And Groundhog Day is such a great film.
Speaker B:Like, they made such a good film together with that.
Speaker C:Yeah, good catch on that.
Speaker C:I knew it was how to, ma'.
Speaker C:Am.
Speaker C:So I was just going on a long tangent.
Speaker A:No, I thought in this, the chemistry between Bill Murray and William Atherton.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Peck or Pekka.
Speaker C:Well, that was ad libbed.
Speaker C:As well.
Speaker A:That was really good.
Speaker A:Some good intense scenes there where they're really going at each other.
Speaker B:And William Atherton, obviously, he was the bad guy in Die Hard as well.
Speaker C:And did you see that Al was in this?
Speaker A:Who?
Speaker C:He lets the guys out of the prison.
Speaker C:He's like Ghostbusters.
Speaker B:The mayor was Al from Die Hard.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker C:And did you hear this theory that he was a cop here?
Speaker C:So why in Die Hard?
Speaker B:Oh, I have.
Speaker B:This is in the back of my head somewhere.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:So in Die Hard, he shoots a kid with a gun, but it turned out it was a ray gun, but it looked real enough, so he's taken off the job and he's like a beat cop now.
Speaker C:So the theory is that that's the same character and in this, he shot a kid with a ray gun because the kid had a ray gun because he was running around, like, pretending to catch ghosts.
Speaker C:And then he had to go to LA and relocate and then became a cop.
Speaker C:In Die Hard.
Speaker C:I freaking love it.
Speaker B:I like it.
Speaker B:In theory.
Speaker B:In theory.
Speaker B:Well, I didn't realize, you know the guy who.
Speaker B:Dana Barrett's Dayton the orchestra guy who has, like, the vic's nasal spray thing and he's like, who's the stiff?
Speaker B:That's Ellis Dewald from Beverly Hills Cop 3 Alice the World.
Speaker B:No.
Speaker B:Anyone?
Speaker B:Someone will get that reference.
Speaker B:But, yeah, he always looked dead familiar when he popped up.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker B:He's been in all kinds of other things as well, obviously.
Speaker C:But that's the other thing I like about this movie is it's like, geeks are hot.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's true.
Speaker C:Like, what's.
Speaker C:What's the neighbor called?
Speaker B:Is it Louis Lewis Tully?
Speaker C:Yeah, he's got that, like, Playboy model woman who's like, he's dating, but let's start dancing.
Speaker B:Maybe other people join in.
Speaker B:She just starts dancing.
Speaker C:Yeah, totally.
Speaker B:That's never happened before, I'm going to admit.
Speaker A:Secret, not saying this is secretly, but ultimately also like a workplace comedy.
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure.
Speaker B:Very much so.
Speaker A:Instead of spreadsheets, it's proton packs.
Speaker C:Yeah, that's good.
Speaker B:The other bits I put down was sort of the way it's so tightly kind of story.
Speaker B:It's not the longest film.
Speaker B:It's like.
Speaker B:It's not even two hours.
Speaker B:I think it's short than two hours.
Speaker B:And it's so.
Speaker B:So much character and story is quickly dispersed.
Speaker B:I probably didn't note this until this time.
Speaker B:I watched it where I'm actually studying it for the podcast because normally it's just Ghostbusters and it's kind of live it living the joy of the film.
Speaker B:But I was like, yeah, Louis's character is introduced.
Speaker B:You get to know his relationship with Day.
Speaker B:It all happens so quick.
Speaker B:You get to know his character, her charact, and you think, in a modern film, that'd take bloody ages.
Speaker B:But here it's just.
Speaker B:And every line's almost quotable.
Speaker B:Like, we keep doing them.
Speaker B:It is all the way through.
Speaker B:And every line is like, oh, that's cool.
Speaker C:Even in that first scene, when they're establishing genre, when they're like, okay.
Speaker C:Because there's no get.
Speaker C:There's no guessing.
Speaker C:Like, our ghosts real.
Speaker C:So, yeah, ghosts are real.
Speaker C:Within the first five minutes, it's like, bosh.
Speaker C:And then every line is funny.
Speaker C:Like, are you Alice menstruating right now?
Speaker C:Back off, man.
Speaker C:I'm a scientist.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker C:No human being would stack books like this.
Speaker C:And then, listen, do you smell something?
Speaker C:And then the whole bit with ego.
Speaker C:Boom.
Speaker C:Like, you get it that he's like the scoundrel trickster.
Speaker C:Like, Peter's the scoundrel trickster.
Speaker C:Egon's like the wise man.
Speaker C:Magician Ray is like this innocent.
Speaker C:Like, is this fire pole working?
Speaker C:And then Winston walks up late into the movie as the everyman.
Speaker C:He was.
Speaker C:He was frustrated that his character got.
Speaker B:Yeah, I was reading all about that.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, apparently, like we said in the opening bit, where I got ahead of myself very quickly when I should have been nutshelling bad me.
Speaker B:But yeah, it should have been all they were thinking.
Speaker B:It was an Eddie Murphy vehicle, so he would have been in the film earlier.
Speaker B:When it became not Eddie Murphy, they pushed his Winston Zed more further into the film.
Speaker B:Kind of lost his backstory.
Speaker B:You know, he works so well.
Speaker B:You know, Ernie Hudson steps into that role, and some of his lines are my all time.
Speaker B:And in the sequel, some of his lines are my favorite.
Speaker B:And he always was one of the Ghostbusters to me.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:And I could never understand as a kid, it's like, why is he not on the poster?
Speaker B:Why is he not on the video game?
Speaker B:But obviously he wasn't a list star at that time.
Speaker B:He was more a character actor.
Speaker A:I think they could have made him.
Speaker B:One, though, but they could have made him one.
Speaker B:So it was good to see him on the poster for two and things like that.
Speaker B:There's the scene where Ernie Hudson and Dan Aykroyd are in the car and they're kind of just on it.
Speaker B:They're coming back from a job and Ray's smoke.
Speaker B:Oh, they're both having a Smoke.
Speaker B:I just love that scene.
Speaker B:I don't know why.
Speaker B:And they're just talking about, like, religion and the abduction.
Speaker A:Well, they just do what they love.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And even as a kid, I probably didn't even know what they were talking about.
Speaker B:I just thought it was cool how they were driving back for work.
Speaker A:To have your job as something you love, it's rare.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Very rare.
Speaker A:And they're just living.
Speaker A:It's just living in the moment, as you should.
Speaker B:And then there's this music that kicks in and it's, like, quite funky.
Speaker B:I don't know.
Speaker B:It just sticks in my head.
Speaker B:It brings a smile.
Speaker B:I always think with the car as well, the ecto one, it's a bit like the DeLorean, where it's just iconic.
Speaker B:So iconic.
Speaker B:So I imagine all the Batmobile.
Speaker B:Or the Batmobile.
Speaker B:And you imagine.
Speaker B:Wonder what it was like the first time you saw this.
Speaker B:Because, you know, I had the toy of it with all the figures and I was full on ghost.
Speaker A:Still do.
Speaker B:I still do have it in LEGO now, but.
Speaker B:But I had, like, a proton pack.
Speaker B:And before I had a proton pack, I built my.
Speaker B:My dad built one out of a cardboard box and toilet roll tubes, and I ran around the house being a Ghostbuster.
Speaker A:Loads of people did that.
Speaker A:Loads.
Speaker A:Anything else on?
Speaker A:What did we miss?
Speaker C:Just also worth shouting out to Sigourney Weaver.
Speaker C:Like, props to her for doing it, because I imagine that's not her background to work in a set with so many kind of improv actors.
Speaker C:But she nails it, and she does sexy really, really well.
Speaker A:I think she probably just likes being out of her comfort zone.
Speaker A:She's one of those people just.
Speaker A:I've never.
Speaker A:This is totally not new.
Speaker A:New to me.
Speaker A:It's different territories.
Speaker A:I'm gonna do it.
Speaker C:Well, she was the one who pitched that she wanted to turn into a.
Speaker B:Dog, and she did it in the audition or something.
Speaker C:She was like, this is what we should do.
Speaker B:And then just start pretending she was a dog.
Speaker C:Like.
Speaker C:Like most movies, it's kind of made up as you go along.
Speaker A:Let's move on to Paul's amazing fact of the day.
Speaker C:Bring it, Paul.
Speaker B:Oh, there is a lot of facts.
Speaker B:I was going through them, trying to find the best ones, but I don't know if these are the best ones because there's a lot of them, but let's throw some out.
Speaker B:And it's hard to not talk about facts of the day when we're talking about the film because it's so classic.
Speaker B:I'll rate them thanks, Tara.
Speaker B:Almost none of the films, almost none of the scenes were filmed as scripted as you'd imagine.
Speaker B:And most had at least one ad lib.
Speaker B:Most of Bill Murray's lines are ad libs, as you'd imagine.
Speaker B:But there's one of the ones where Harold Remis, the bit where he's talking about drilling a hole in his head, and he said, that would have worked if you hadn't stopped me.
Speaker B:Yeah, that was Harold's on the spot.
Speaker B:He came up with that one.
Speaker B:So it's good to know that they were kind of playing off the script.
Speaker B: release date in the summer of: Speaker B:And the audience just didn't care or didn't even notice?
Speaker B:No, they didn't care.
Speaker B:They just enjoyed the film that much.
Speaker B:And apparently that they did a test with that initial scene and they were laughing and scared at the same time.
Speaker B:He was like, I think we've got this.
Speaker C:Sigourney Weaver's character opens the fridge.
Speaker C:It just went to a plate that said visual effects added here.
Speaker C:And they still jumped.
Speaker B:And I read somewhere they said, maybe we should have just left it.
Speaker B:Like, just.
Speaker B:This is a fact about me in that scene.
Speaker B:Because I used to watch the video of this over and over and over.
Speaker B:The certain scenes where I remember it used to cut to adverts recorded off tv, because it was recorded off tv.
Speaker B:And I always remember that scene where it's like Zool and she shuts the fridge would always go to an ad break.
Speaker B:Always.
Speaker B:It gets to it.
Speaker B:I'm like, this is bringing back an ad break in my head somewhere.
Speaker B:Ray Parker Jr.
Speaker B:Created the Ghostbusters theme song, as we know.
Speaker B:And he tried to create the song for the movie in two days.
Speaker B:And at 4:30am he saw a commercial for a drain company that reminded him of a scene from the film.
Speaker C:He was like, who are you gonna call?
Speaker B:Who are you gonna call?
Speaker B:And that became obviously what it was.
Speaker C:Apparently it was last minute.
Speaker C:The messenger was at the door.
Speaker C:I was like, you need to hand this in on.
Speaker B:He's gotta get it in.
Speaker C:Get it in.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And because I think.
Speaker C:I think Ivan Whiteman, one of them, said, you have to have the name Ghostbusters in the song.
Speaker B:That's right.
Speaker B:And he was struggling.
Speaker C:How do you do that?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:And the lively chorus shouting Ghostbusters in the theme song was actually consisted of Ray Parker Jr's Girlfriend and her friends.
Speaker B:The only people he could find quick enough to meet the deadline.
Speaker C:Right.
Speaker C:Let me do some heavy lifting for you, Paul.
Speaker B:Look at the stuff, Darren.
Speaker A:He's not finished yet.
Speaker B:Are you going to talk about Huey Lewis Suetive?
Speaker C:Nope.
Speaker B:Oh, go on then, do some more.
Speaker A:No, it's you.
Speaker A:You finish.
Speaker B:No, no.
Speaker B:I'm feeling the pressure.
Speaker A:Where he's going to go.
Speaker B:They all suck.
Speaker B:They're the worst facts ever.
Speaker A:Carry on.
Speaker B: ng comedy until home alone in: Speaker A:No, I did not.
Speaker A:I didn't know that.
Speaker B:He's gonna know all of these.
Speaker B:Did you know the exterior scenes of the firehouse headquarters were at Hook and Ladder in New York, but the internal ones were in a place in Los Angeles which is also the inside of the mask when he gets his car fixed.
Speaker C:I didn't know that second bit, but that always bugged me because this is such a New York film and it feels like they cheated on New York.
Speaker B:A bit by not doing the inside in the inside.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Like New Yorkers would know.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I suppose when you visit the firehouse as well, like people do, they'll be like, that's not the inside.
Speaker C:I always thought if I go to New York, I'm gonna visit the firehouse.
Speaker C:It turns out it's not there.
Speaker B:The rooftop set for the final confrontation.
Speaker B:I'm waiting for him.
Speaker B:Like, these all suck.
Speaker B:I've got better facts than you.
Speaker B:The rooftop set for the final confrontation between Goza and the Ghostbusters occupied an entire soundstage and required 50,000amps of electricity to be properly lit.
Speaker B:So Columbia Pictures had to shut down other stages while this scene was being filmed, which I guess now they would just do on a green screen and just have part of the set.
Speaker B:But that whole bit was pretty much built on the set and that's how much it took to light it.
Speaker B:There's lots of people who they were going to have for Pete Venkman, but one of the ones that I was a bit shocked at because I love him as an actor.
Speaker B:Michael Keaton turned down both the roles of Venkman and Spengler.
Speaker B:Maybe that would be interesting.
Speaker B:Michael Keaton as Venkman.
Speaker C:What would he have done by that?
Speaker C:Oh, Batman.
Speaker C:He was coming off Batman.
Speaker B:No, no, this was before Batman was 89.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:So he'll still be doing comedies and stuff like Night Shift and things like that.
Speaker B:When Dan Aykroyd first saw the pole.
Speaker B:This goes to something you said before at the fire station set, which was actually an abandoned Firehouse.
Speaker B:He said they had to use it.
Speaker B:And Ivan Reitman says, yeah, it kind of wasn't really a moment in the movie.
Speaker B:That's what Dan Aykrob is like on that set.
Speaker A:That's what they're all like.
Speaker A:All improv people.
Speaker A:They're gonna do it.
Speaker B:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:But it just adds to character work.
Speaker B:Yeah, this place is great.
Speaker B:Okay, I'm gonna give you just two more because then I can feel Darren's got.
Speaker C:That's okay.
Speaker B:He's.
Speaker B:He's got facts.
Speaker B:The bruin, the floating.
Speaker B:That was done with Sigourney Weaver.
Speaker B:That was actually like a theatrical trick where she was kind of wired up and in a harnessy thing and floating above the bed.
Speaker B:The ghost who floated above the bed head, who did the ray stands ghost thing.
Speaker B:She had to get cast done.
Speaker B:And apparently they were being quite shy about putting the mold cast on her.
Speaker B:And she was the one who grabbed hold of them and said, yeah, just slap it on there on her breast area.
Speaker B:And apparently she is in.
Speaker B:But apparently she's in Romancing the Stone, which was our last film.
Speaker C:Oh, sweet.
Speaker B:I didn't know this, but I couldn't figure out which character she played in it.
Speaker C:I need a sister.
Speaker C:Isn't there?
Speaker B:Yeah, it wasn't the sister she played.
Speaker B:Did you know?
Speaker B:Okay, I'll leave you this one.
Speaker B:Dana Croix.
Speaker B:Original title for the film was Ghost Smashers.
Speaker B:But then there was a whole thing because of a TV series called the Ghostbusters.
Speaker B:There was a long legal process, so they weren't sure whether they'd be able to use the name Ghostbusters.
Speaker B:So when they were filming it, they were still using the alternative title Ghost Breakers.
Speaker B:So they used to have to do, like, two takes.
Speaker B:Ghost.
Speaker B:Well, he was going to call it Ghost Smashers, but then by the time they were filming it, they were calling it Ghost Breakers.
Speaker B:But they do two takes.
Speaker B:They'd say Ghost breakers and they'd say Ghostbusters.
Speaker B:And then when they finally got the legal rights to use it.
Speaker B:Yeah, they may have done.
Speaker B:They may have done a few.
Speaker B:They finally called it Ghostbusters.
Speaker A:Cool.
Speaker A:Thank you very much, Paul.
Speaker A:What you got, Darren?
Speaker C:Building on what you just said on the Ghost breakers thing, you're quite right.
Speaker C:And there's two things that were interesting to me.
Speaker C:Firstly, they needed a massive special effects company to come and do all the special effects, because they wanted a lot of special effects.
Speaker C:There was only one at the time.
Speaker C:Guess who that was?
Speaker B:Ilm.
Speaker C:Ilm.
Speaker C:ILM Were busy because they were just.
Speaker B:Real light and Map Doom.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker C:But Richard Edlund, who was working at ilm, was getting fed up because ilm, if you think about it, started with Star wars being really scrappy, bunch of rebels and, like, hippies just, like, doing their cool stuff in their yard, basically.
Speaker C:But then they got big, so they started getting corporate and grown up.
Speaker C:And he was like, I don't want to be corporate and grown up.
Speaker C:This wasn't what we did.
Speaker C:So we broke away and just took everyone who was pissed off and set up their own company called Boss Films.
Speaker C:And then, like, we'll do your special effects.
Speaker C:But then it was such an insane amount of special effects.
Speaker C:They were just panicking, overwhelmed, totally overwhelmed.
Speaker C:And it was like they were just throwing in whatever they could get done on the deadline.
Speaker B:Don't forget, this is Optical effects.
Speaker B:This is cgi, kids.
Speaker B:This is way before cgi.
Speaker C:And they had.
Speaker C:The company they were working for was Columbia.
Speaker C:A guy called Frank Price was the kind of exec of it, and he greenlit it and said, you know, we'll give you 25 million, but you have to have it in by this date.
Speaker C:We want it to be a summer film.
Speaker C:We're going to make loads and loads of money, but you have to have it.
Speaker C:So that's why they had pressure.
Speaker C:But they couldn't get the rights to Ghostbusters because it belonged with another studio.
Speaker C:And then four months earlier to Ghostbusters, Coca Cola had bought up Columbia because Coca Cola decided they want to make movies now, but they didn't know anything about movies, so they wanted to cancel Ghostbusters because it was an expensive comedy with special effects.
Speaker B:Yes, I did read this.
Speaker C:And Frank Price was like, no, this is going to be great.
Speaker C:And he gave.
Speaker C:Who would it have been?
Speaker C:Ivan Reitman, I think tons of control over the marketing in the contract.
Speaker C:Because what would tend to happen is if a film isn't going to be great or they lose faith in it is, they will bury it and not market it.
Speaker C:They.
Speaker C:I literally saw Disney do that when I had the cinema.
Speaker C:They did it with John Carter.
Speaker C:John Carter?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:John Carr.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:What's it?
Speaker B:It's based off Junk out of Mars, but they just call it Junk Out.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And they just buried it.
Speaker C:They stopped.
Speaker C:They stopped promoting it.
Speaker C:I saw him kind of do the same thing with Frozen, because Frozen's marketing was all about Olaf, because they thought it was a kids film.
Speaker C:And then suddenly, halfway through, they realized it wasn't.
Speaker C:And suddenly they started throwing Elsa out and threw the song out and stuff.
Speaker C:It was kind of interesting.
Speaker C:Anyway, so they couldn't get the rights still to this.
Speaker C:But then Frank Price eventually fell out with Coke because he got really annoyed at being told what to do.
Speaker C:And he goes and works for another company who owns Filmation, who owns the rights to Ghostbusters and Filmation were making cartoons like he man.
Speaker C:And so once he basically moved to another company, he was like, oh yeah, give those guys the rights to that name.
Speaker C:It's going to be Lush.
Speaker A:And boom, he did nice.
Speaker B:And the rest is history.
Speaker C:Right, because you're right, it would be called Ghost Breakers.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:If that guy wasn't a nice guy.
Speaker B:So the song would have been the same.
Speaker B:The whole thing.
Speaker B:I mean, I think they still had to call the cartoon the real Ghostbusters.
Speaker C:Universal.
Speaker C:That was a Universal owned filmation.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Well, I think that's why they had to change the cartoon still.
Speaker B:Because the other Ghostbusters.
Speaker B:Yeah, TV show was still a thing.
Speaker C:Crazy, right?
Speaker A:Wow, that's good.
Speaker B:Sliding doors moment.
Speaker A:Very good.
Speaker C:Coke doing, buying.
Speaker C:I just can make more code, product, pacing this.
Speaker A:Just want to get involved in everything.
Speaker A:Even though they have.
Speaker A:They've got money but no clue.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Thank you gentlemen.
Speaker A:That was really good.
Speaker A:Enjoyed that.
Speaker A:Okay, let's move on to hate it or rate it.
Speaker A:So Paul, this was your choice.
Speaker A:So I'm gonna go to you first.
Speaker A:10 gonna be interesting.
Speaker B:No notes.
Speaker B:I've always wanted to say that.
Speaker B:Ten no notes.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:I love Ghostbusters.
Speaker B:What can I tell you?
Speaker B:I grew up with it.
Speaker A:Is there anything you don't like about this film?
Speaker B:No.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker C:It's not longer.
Speaker B:I watched it just going like, I love it.
Speaker B:It's part of my childhood.
Speaker B:It's part of the reason I got into movies.
Speaker B:It's part of the reason I used to run around pretend I was a Ghostbuster when I was a kid.
Speaker B:It had two waves.
Speaker B:It was the kids Ghostbusters, where I thought it was this serious film about hunting ghosts, which I loved.
Speaker B:And then it became this.
Speaker B:Oh my word.
Speaker B:It's this hilarious comedy as well, which I didn't get all the references when I was a kid.
Speaker B:So then it became this funny film that I still had all this nostalgia for.
Speaker B:So it's for me, it's got the nostalgia, it's got the funnies, Enjoy the horror things.
Speaker B:I just think it holds up.
Speaker B:And then watching it this time because I did try and pull back a bit and be a bit more objective and objective, but I couldn't.
Speaker B:It just took me in and the best I could get out of it was this Is really tightly scripted.
Speaker B:The character works so well done.
Speaker B:Everyone seems perfect for the roles.
Speaker B:Sigourney Weavers, I don't know, it just fits.
Speaker B:I feel like they keep trying to recreate it.
Speaker B:Ghostbusters 2, same for me.
Speaker B:Gets a lot of flack.
Speaker B:There was no Ghostbusters for me.
Speaker B:It was all one big Ghostbusters thing.
Speaker B:I loved it all.
Speaker B:This one's always going to be the original and have that kudos over the other one probably.
Speaker B:But I still love them both.
Speaker B:That I could rant about how much I love it for ages.
Speaker B:But for me this is like up there, Back to the Future.
Speaker B:It's.
Speaker B:It's one of them films that's nostalgia.
Speaker B:It's funny.
Speaker B:Yeah, I love it.
Speaker A:So you're going 10?
Speaker B:Yeah, I'm going 10.
Speaker A:10.
Speaker C:Nice.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:Darren, over to you.
Speaker C:Yeah, I didn't like it.
Speaker C:I loved this movie.
Speaker C:Loved it so much.
Speaker C:I played the game.
Speaker C:I can quote this and Ghostbusters to like you wouldn't believe.
Speaker C:I still do quote it a lot and it's like part of my lexicon.
Speaker C:That's the word.
Speaker A:But you just didn't have a good time with it this time, watching it.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker C:And I. I thought the effects were kind of dated, which is understandable now that now I realize kind of how much pressure they were under.
Speaker C:I just.
Speaker C:I couldn't get that engaged.
Speaker C:And I mean, it is good for sure.
Speaker C:I mean the opening is great.
Speaker C:It's a great example of like establishing genre really quick.
Speaker C:There's one liners coming all the time.
Speaker C:As Paul says, once it hits that kind of third act and it's like the music kicks in.
Speaker C:The soundtrack's amazing.
Speaker C:I had the soundtrack.
Speaker C:You know, the song was nominated for Academy Award, like last minute deadline.
Speaker B:Thing about that.
Speaker A:It's.
Speaker C:And there's like Scorny Weaver's role is.
Speaker C:I think it's fantastic.
Speaker C:I think there's lots of good stuff.
Speaker C:I just didn't enjoy it and then I was trying to work out why.
Speaker C:And I think also my view of Bill Mo is going down a little bit because I'm hearing stories about him which aren't kind of great.
Speaker C:Just he's been a bit, you know, standoffish with people, a bit mean or holding grudges and stuff.
Speaker B:I'm still not letting that affect Ghostbusters.
Speaker C:No, no.
Speaker B:I have to separate the two.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And yeah.
Speaker C:And then there's no.
Speaker C:I mean, I also feel really, really.
Speaker C:I know it's dumb, but I feel really, really bad when he makes Dan Ackroyd get a third mortgage.
Speaker C:And he's just bullied him into doing that.
Speaker B:You're not going to regret this, Ray.
Speaker C:Really, really unlikable character.
Speaker C:Like, he does.
Speaker C:He's a predator.
Speaker C:He carries around drugs to knock out women.
Speaker B:You didn't even haggle with the guy.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:And there's no character growth.
Speaker C:It's not like he starts as a slime.
Speaker C:I mean, he does a little bit because he decides he wants to fight for Dana and he's like, sad about that.
Speaker C:And maybe he discovers love.
Speaker C:Maybe.
Speaker C:But he's a kind of cold character.
Speaker C:It's not really about anything.
Speaker C:It's not about.
Speaker C:I mean, I had.
Speaker C:I like the talk where they're like, I really like Jesus's.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:When they're in the coach.
Speaker C:But then there's nothing to do, like with.
Speaker C:I wish the church were more involved in some way.
Speaker C:I wish it was saying something about religion or.
Speaker C:Or it was saying something about academia and intelligence but not being as good as, like, blue collar, working on the street, being pest controllers or.
Speaker C:There was all these things.
Speaker B:It could have a giant marshmallow man walking through the streets of New York.
Speaker B:Darren, come on.
Speaker C:So that end scene is over so quick.
Speaker C:Like, they're like, oh, no, the marshmallow man is.
Speaker C:Blast him.
Speaker C:Oh, no.
Speaker C:He's raised fire on us now.
Speaker C:Let's just.
Speaker A:Let's cross the streams.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker C:It's like, okay, now it's over.
Speaker C:Okay.
Speaker C:There was no real.
Speaker C:Not much sense of jeopardy.
Speaker C:Almost like I just.
Speaker C:I knew everyone was going to be okay.
Speaker C:Obviously I wasn't that worried.
Speaker C:I just didn't feel that.
Speaker B:Because you've seen it before.
Speaker B:Yeah, but surely you were worried as a kid.
Speaker C:As a kid, I love this.
Speaker C:As a teenager, I love this.
Speaker C:In my 20s and probably early 30s.
Speaker C:I love this.
Speaker C:And it's just.
Speaker C:I know we've talked before about.
Speaker C:I've got this rating system of is it a movie, a film or cinema?
Speaker C:Yeah, movies, you know, we'll talk about for a few years.
Speaker C:Films like, you know, maybe a few decades.
Speaker C:And then cinema is eternally.
Speaker C:I think this is much like Labyrinth.
Speaker C:It's kind of coming to an end of its run, honestly.
Speaker C:Keep you five bucks.
Speaker A:So what you give it, Darren.
Speaker C:4.5.
Speaker C:What?
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker A:I think that's the first time he's ever given a point something.
Speaker C:Because I honestly can't even give it halfway.
Speaker C:It was.
Speaker C:It was paused here that I did the 0.5.
Speaker B:You can't even go halfway.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker B:Oh.
Speaker A:Okay, let's move on.
Speaker A:Move on to Me?
Speaker B:Yeah, I was gonna say.
Speaker B:Mark, come on.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:I love this film.
Speaker A:I have not seen it for years.
Speaker A:I did have.
Speaker A:I had on VHS as well back in the day.
Speaker A:The second one, I don't remember much.
Speaker A:I didn't remember seeing it that much.
Speaker C:No.
Speaker A:This first one, I saw it a lot, but it must be 20 years since I've seen it.
Speaker A:But, yeah, I really enjoyed it, but I wasn't so keen on the horror of this film.
Speaker C:Oh, that's interesting.
Speaker A:The comedy I love.
Speaker A:But the.
Speaker A:When it went to the horror, which is quite serious this time, for me, it just.
Speaker A:Just didn't land.
Speaker B:Just didn't hit.
Speaker A:I would rather.
Speaker A:Maybe.
Speaker A:I don't know what it was, but.
Speaker A:Well, I'm not into horror anyway.
Speaker A:But I'd rather.
Speaker A:For me, I just want the whole thing to be funny all the time.
Speaker A:I just want to laugh all the time.
Speaker A:Because the comedy bits maybe.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:Maybe the comedy bits hit so much because they're Got so much horror in it.
Speaker A:I don't know if that's.
Speaker A:If that elevates the comedy.
Speaker A:I don't know.
Speaker A:I don't know if that's the intention.
Speaker C:But the comedy is also all dialogue.
Speaker C:There's not any.
Speaker C:If you compare it to an extreme, like Edgar Wright, where the camera's doing funny stuff or there's transitions or this thing entering and exiting the frame in interesting ways, this is just like a bunch of comedians being filmed.
Speaker C:It's not using the full use of cinema, really.
Speaker A:But for me, the nostalgia aspect was still.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker A:Like, I was still.
Speaker A:And I still.
Speaker A:Because it's been so long since I've seen it.
Speaker B:20 years.
Speaker A:Well, I still loved it.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:Like what you were saying, the characters, the cast, the chemistry of everyone.
Speaker A:Like those two, Pekka and Venkman.
Speaker A:Yeah, that was some genuine riffing on some.
Speaker A:Like, they almost like they've really hated each other.
Speaker A:In his eyes.
Speaker A:And he's like, oh, Bill Murray's face.
Speaker A:When the.
Speaker A:When the priest walks in, he's like, oh, God.
Speaker A:But then he doesn't actually say anything to him.
Speaker A:I'm thinking he's gonna like, come on, then.
Speaker A:What's God gonna do about this?
Speaker A:But it just doesn't get resolved.
Speaker A:Like, why.
Speaker A:What was the point of bringing him in?
Speaker C:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker A:But I'm still gonna give this an 8.
Speaker C:Nice.
Speaker A:Because I really.
Speaker A:It did.
Speaker A:I did enjoy the film.
Speaker A:Just.
Speaker A:I didn't realize.
Speaker A:Don't know what I thought.
Speaker A:I can't remember what I thought.
Speaker A:Back in the day of the horror When I was a kid watching it, I just kind of accepted it.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:You see, I don't think I knew what, like.
Speaker A:I've forgotten how, like, serious it was in the horror aspects of this.
Speaker A:It's quite dark film in places.
Speaker B:I took it completely serious as a kid.
Speaker B:I didn't even know it was comedy, honestly.
Speaker B:I was about 12 when I read it and I was like, comedy is it.
Speaker C:I feel like our grades are kind of widening.
Speaker C:I feel this has happened on a few films now where we're going, like, someone's going quite low, someone's going quite high, someone's going in the middle.
Speaker C:And it's like, that quote is like, you know, call it fate, call it karma, like, what brought us together.
Speaker C:And something's gonna.
Speaker C:Something's good.
Speaker C:We are the Ghostbusters.
Speaker C:We're the podcasters.
Speaker B:I did.
Speaker B:I did think of that at the start where there's the three of them.
Speaker B:I'm like, is this the podcast?
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker B:Is this the podcast?
Speaker B:At some point am I going to remortgage and Damon's gonna be like, you're never gonna regret this, Paul.
Speaker C:No, I'm not Bankman anymore.
Speaker C:I don't want to be Bankman.
Speaker C:I'll be Egon.
Speaker C:I collect spores, molds and fungus.
Speaker A:22.5.
Speaker A:That's a good score above.
Speaker C:What's it under?
Speaker A:Let's find out.
Speaker C:Yeah, Bill Murray doesn't tell anyone.
Speaker C:There's no contract.
Speaker C:He just rocks up on the day.
Speaker C:You hope.
Speaker C:They didn't know.
Speaker C:They didn't know he was going to turn up.
Speaker C:And they're like, well, Dan says he's going to turn up.
Speaker C:And then at 8:30 he turned up.
Speaker B:Well, one of the facts said that the studio had to make another film with him in to make him agree to do this one.
Speaker C:Really?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:That's crazy.
Speaker B:Bill Murray agreed to do this movie only if Columbia financed a remake of the Razor's Edge with him as the star.
Speaker B:The remake was made and released the same year as this movie.
Speaker C:Never heard of it.
Speaker B:Me neither.
Speaker B:Also, this came out the same day as Gremlins.
Speaker C:That's a beast of a box office fight, right?
Speaker C:Whoa.
Speaker B:Can you imagine that now with two films where they just wouldn't do it, would they?
Speaker B:They wouldn't know.
Speaker C:One of them would.
Speaker C:Would cave.
Speaker A:Should have.
Speaker A:That's, that's, that's incredible.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:Okay, so Ghostbusters comes in at 22.5, which puts it 15th.
Speaker C:Oh, that's not bad at all.
Speaker A: Out of now: Speaker C:I don't feel so bad.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker C:My drag factor didn't do that much damage.
Speaker B:No, it's put it somewhere up the top.
Speaker B:Then who's it sandwiched between?
Speaker A:So it is slightly above it.
Speaker A:So it's just above the Vikings and Collateral.
Speaker A:So actually it's matched with the Vikings.
Speaker A:They were both 22.5.
Speaker C:I love that you guys gave okay.
Speaker C:Ratings to Vikings.
Speaker A:I really enjoyed it.
Speaker A:Really enjoyed it.
Speaker A:And it's just below the Running man and Predator.
Speaker C:That's good company.
Speaker A:Yeah.
Speaker A:So Predator is 22.7.
Speaker A:And.
Speaker A:Oh, sorry, Predator was 23.8.
Speaker A:And the Running man was 22.7.
Speaker B:Yeah, 22.5.
Speaker A:So let yourself down so you can go and check it.
Speaker A:If you want to have a look for yourself, you can look in the show notes.
Speaker A:Okay, let's move on to part three, which is the listener lounge.
Speaker A:So in part three, first we have the lobby where we share your comments, your questions and your emails.
Speaker A:And then we ask our question of the week.
Speaker A:And we finish off by revealing next week's movie.
Speaker A:It did put out a question this morning, so I'll read some of the answers out tonight.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, from.
Speaker A:So from Castaway, Desert island, you've got three movies.
Speaker A:What are you choosing?
Speaker A:That was the question, remember?
Speaker B:Oh, yeah, I'm still thinking.
Speaker A:Scott Wigglesworth has put Blade Runner, Muppet Christmas Carol.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:And Ghostbusters.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker B:Scott.
Speaker A:Drama, levity, wit and nostalgia.
Speaker B:That's a solid choice.
Speaker B:Well done, Scott.
Speaker B:I'm thinking I need to put more P. Christmas Carol in the mix too.
Speaker A:And the Cumbrian skater Rat has put Blade Runner, but in brackets, director's cut.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:Two Blade Runners there.
Speaker A:Point Break and Big Trouble in Little China.
Speaker B:Oh, okay.
Speaker A:I've seen that bit of variety there.
Speaker A:Yeah, yeah, makes sense.
Speaker A:Makes sense.
Speaker C:Trevor Horn says Dances With Wolves, out of Africa and Zulu, they're all quite.
Speaker B:Like serious films to have on a desert one as well.
Speaker A:Yeah, that's why you want the longest films.
Speaker A:I watch all these in a row.
Speaker A:That's the last eight hours.
Speaker C:And they're all set in the wilderness.
Speaker C:So I guess it's like, oh, I live here now.
Speaker C:I'm just playing Zulu.
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker A:And Rob Walker's put the Iron Giant.
Speaker A:I don't know what that is.
Speaker B:It's an animated.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:The Martian film and Ford vs Ferrari.
Speaker A:Good.
Speaker A:But again, I've seen that one bit of variety.
Speaker A:No, I have not seen it either.
Speaker B:But it's supposed to be very good.
Speaker A:Good variety there.
Speaker A:Oh, I want to say, while in the lobby, Darren, about Cast away because when I was editing it, I realized when you.
Speaker A:You.
Speaker A:When you asked her to.
Speaker A:About film about survival, you went, what movie were you watching?
Speaker A:I just thought you were being funny, but, like, you were right.
Speaker A:Like, this is not a movie just about survival.
Speaker A:That went over my head at the time.
Speaker A:I didn't get what you were trying to get over to me.
Speaker C:Yes, okay.
Speaker A:But in the end, I realized that this is not just a movie about survival.
Speaker A:It's a very small part of the film about him surviving on an island, which is why it's four years and.
Speaker C:And it's not like bag reels, you know, all you really seem to do is make a five.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker A:It's the basic stuff, isn't it?
Speaker B:I can't look at that film the same way ever again.
Speaker A:I just want to say you did a good job.
Speaker C:I feel the pressure now because I feel like that was a peak episode.
Speaker A:You do a good job every week.
Speaker A:I appreciate the work you both put into this.
Speaker A:Okay, so let's move on to.
Speaker B:He's laughing again.
Speaker C:I was going to make a joke, but I feel like I keep bullying Paul today and I do want to.
Speaker B:I have a cold.
Speaker C:Darren, I love Paul so much and I'm really pleased that, like, we invited you and I'm really pleased that you joined it.
Speaker C:I look forward to these sessions every week.
Speaker B:Bullying me every week.
Speaker C:I'm not allowed to bully my students.
Speaker B:Oh, I see.
Speaker B:I see.
Speaker A:You just saves.
Speaker A:Saves it up, brings it here.
Speaker A:We love you, Paul.
Speaker B:Whatever.
Speaker A:Okay, let's move on to the question of the week.
Speaker A:So, yeah, also if you guys shout out to anyone, everyone who voted for the listener choice, we'll announce that very soon.
Speaker A:And also, if you've got any thoughts on Ghostbusters, any wild favors, or you've got any thoughts on what we said, please get in touch.
Speaker A:You can email us.
Speaker A:Hello, Movies in a Nutshell Dot Com.
Speaker A:You can also send a voice message.
Speaker A:If you go to Movies in a Nutshell Dot com, there's a little thing on the side of the bottom that says voicemail.
Speaker A:It opens up the voice recorder on your phone.
Speaker A:You can send a message and it comes directly to us here.
Speaker B:They might want to tell us about what they think of the sequels and the remake and the whole legacy beyond what we've talked about today as well.
Speaker A:Please do.
Speaker A:We'd love to hear your opinions and we'll read them out on the show.
Speaker C:It made science cool, which is good.
Speaker C:Yeah, those people would have gone into science.
Speaker C:And also the kids getting bullied at School for liking science would have had a hero to look up to.
Speaker C:Be cool.
Speaker A:For the question of the week, I was thinking, let's get people just.
Speaker A:If they've got any paranormal ghost experience, send them in.
Speaker A:Because I'm a bit skeptical because I'm not seen anything in my life.
Speaker A:And when I've gone, oh, I do not know.
Speaker A:That's weird.
Speaker A:That could be something.
Speaker A:I've never had that.
Speaker A:But I know lots of people have told me that they've seen things and heard things.
Speaker C:I'm the other end of the scale.
Speaker C:I fully believe that's fine.
Speaker B:But, yeah, paycheck, I'll believe anything you tell me to.
Speaker A:So you listening to this right now?
Speaker A:If you've got an experience you want to share with us, send it in and we will read them all out on the show next week.
Speaker A:Okay.
Speaker A:That takes us on to the main event, which is next week's movie, which is the listener choice.
Speaker B:Have we got quite a lot?
Speaker A:We had a lot.
Speaker A:Too many to read out.
Speaker A:I'm not gonna do that again.
Speaker B:Oh, wow.
Speaker A:Took too long.
Speaker B:We're flicking through.
Speaker A:I'm just gonna spin the wheel.
Speaker B:Spin the wheel.
Speaker A:I'll tell you what I will do.
Speaker A:I'll read.
Speaker A:I'll skim through it and read some.
Speaker A:Read out some of the movies that are in it.
Speaker B:Okay, so this is some of them.
Speaker A:This is a.
Speaker A:This isn't all of them.
Speaker A:Because there's too many.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker B:A secret window on there.
Speaker A:And some of.
Speaker A:Yes.
Speaker B:Okay.
Speaker A:Some of these are every week, but it's like Time Bandits has been in there for a while.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah, I know.
Speaker A:That's Phil Williams.
Speaker A:The Prestige.
Speaker A:Prestige.
Speaker A:That's joel lamb.
Speaker A: Triangle: Speaker A:That's ollie cake.
Speaker A:Ferris Wheeler's Day off in this one.
Speaker A:The Death of Stalin.
Speaker B:I've seen that.
Speaker C:Ollie Cake met Stephen Merchant the other day.
Speaker A:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:Wow.
Speaker C:Yeah, I did.
Speaker B:Oh, no way.
Speaker C:Posted on social media.
Speaker B:That's cool.
Speaker A:Also got the Rock.
Speaker C:Oh.
Speaker C:Oh, my God.
Speaker C:I love.
Speaker C:For some reason, I pictured Dwayne Johnson, but you mean the Rock with Sean Connery?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:Yes.
Speaker A:Oh, classic.
Speaker A:Cool Runnings.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker B:I haven't seen that.
Speaker B:Long time.
Speaker A:What kind of stupid name is Tallulah?
Speaker A:That's my mother's name.
Speaker A:Oh, it's a great name.
Speaker A:I love it.
Speaker A:The Goonies.
Speaker C:Can you imagine if that doesn't hold up, though?
Speaker B:I. I almost don't want you to see that.
Speaker B:In case it doesn't, there is that.
Speaker A:John Wick, which I'm not saying John.
Speaker B:Wick as in number one.
Speaker B:You've not seen John Wick?
Speaker A:Okay, the crow, I'm sure.
Speaker A:1994 version.
Speaker A:The crow.
Speaker C:Okay for that.
Speaker B:Did you not enjoy the new one?
Speaker C:No.
Speaker B:Oh, shall I?
Speaker A:There was a one last year.
Speaker A:Was there?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker B:There's a remake.
Speaker A:Sisu.
Speaker A:I don't know what that is.
Speaker A:Sisu.
Speaker A:I don't know what that is.
Speaker A:We've had that before.
Speaker A:Deep cover.
Speaker A:Don't know what that is.
Speaker A:And the Secret window today.
Speaker B:But a few.
Speaker B:Spin the wheel.
Speaker B:Spin the wheel.
Speaker A:Shall spin the wheel.
Speaker C:D.J.
Speaker C:spin that wheel.
Speaker A:Are we ready?
Speaker A:Here we go.
Speaker C:Yes.
Speaker A:The Crow.
Speaker A:1994.
Speaker B:Marvelous.
Speaker A:Which is Brandon Lee.
Speaker A:I have not seen this movie.
Speaker A:Never?
Speaker A:Nope.
Speaker C:I'd have been 17 or something.
Speaker C:18.
Speaker C:Would have seen it at the cinema, though.
Speaker C:Would have seen it on video.
Speaker C:So.
Speaker C:Yeah.
Speaker A:You seen it, Paul?
Speaker B:Yeah, fairly recently.
Speaker A:You own it?
Speaker B:Yeah.
Speaker C:Oh, yeah.
Speaker C:I also owned the comic for a long time.
Speaker C:It's based on the comic by James o'.
Speaker C:Barr.
Speaker C:Cool.
Speaker C:Really?
Speaker C:I used to work in a comic book shop back in the day.
Speaker C:Oh, wow.
Speaker C:I'm actually more nerdier than you, I think.
Speaker A:Wow.
Speaker B:Can we get that writing, please?
Speaker C:It was Kathy's comics in Plymouth.
Speaker C:I have no idea if it's still there.
Speaker B:No way.
Speaker A:And that was chosen by Poppy M48.
Speaker C:Thank you, Poppy M48.
Speaker B:Thank you for that, Poppy.
Speaker A:Next week, Poppy, that will be your movie choice.
Speaker A:So you'll have to let us know what you think of that when we put it out.
Speaker A:Okay.
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Speaker A:So it's time for us to say goodbye.
Speaker A:This is Mark saying goodbye.
Speaker C:Darren saying goodbye for now.
Speaker B:No job is too big.
Speaker B:No fear's too big.
Speaker C:You see, you've got.
Speaker C:You've got the voice right there, Sam.
