Awakenings - In A Nutshell

Marc: 00:00:12

Hello and welcome to Movies in a Nutshell with me, Marc Farquhar, myself, Darren.

Paul: 00:00:16

Horn and I, Paul Day.

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We help you spend less time browsing and more time watching.

Darren: 00:00:21

If you've seen the movie, we'll reveal what you might have missed.

Paul: 00:00:23

If you haven't, we'll give you a quick spoiler free breakdown.

Marc: 00:00:26

We've got behind the scenes trivia including Paul's facts of the day, host ratings.

Darren: 00:00:29

And a legend league table, plus your.

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Chance to choose a movie.

Marc: 00:00:33

Okay, Here we go. Awakenings: 1990

So we are in part one, which is the nutshell in which we will break the movie down spoiler free to help you decide if it's your kind of movie. So in a nutshell, how do we break this movie down?

Darren: 00:00:54

It's about a doctor who ends up in a role that he didn't expect and wouldn't want because it did. It means dealing with patients and he's a research focused of doctor who doesn't have great social skills.

He gets allocated to a ward which is known as the garden because he did just keep watering and feeding these people because they're semi comatose. And then it's. He's.

Marc: 00:01:15

These people have been written off basically, haven't they?

Darren: 00:01:16

Written off by society. And then it's his story of how he leans into that role and then tries different solutions to try and help these people.

Paul: 00:01:25

And then through his experimentations he finds how it helped them differently. And it's in the character of the doctor himself. He's quite an introverted person in his personal life. So it's very much all about the work.

And he likes plants and I just thought he likes plants and things. And it's called the garden. I only just connected that now. But yeah, so it's about his kind of journey with these patients as well.

So the interactions he has and. And the staff as well in the actual institution.

Darren: 00:01:50

Yeah, Hospital.

Paul: 00:01:52

Yeah.

Marc: 00:01:52

It's definitely about the. The beauty of the human condition, I think, good and bad and the big headline.

Paul: 00:01:57

For me, it's one of those films that makes you feel very privileged without a doubt. Yeah. Privilege to have things that you don't think about.

Marc: 00:02:04

All the things that you take for granted.

Paul: 00:02:06

All the things you take for granted.

Marc: 00:02:07

Like a glance or a smile or a shared silence.

Paul: 00:02:09

Yeah.

Marc: 00:02:10

Everything has lots of meaning but you just sort of take it for granted.

Paul: 00:02:13

And at the end of the day everyone has problems of some degree but this sort of makes you go, oh, my problems pale in comparison to someone who maybe has some of these problems, whether that's family members or the person actually suffering from these things themselves. So yeah, the human condition, like you say, good overview of it.

Darren: 00:02:30

Hard to think about other films that it's like though. I mean obviously you've got one flavor of the Cuckoo's Nest to a little extent.

Paul: 00:02:36

I've never seen that, but I wrote that down because I figured it would be similar sort of film. I'm going to watch it now. I've seen this just to see. I also put Robin Williams did a few drama sort of films. Like. I haven't seen some of them.

Patch Adams, things like that.

Darren: 00:02:49

Yeah, sure.

Paul: 00:02:50

I guess that's these maybe sort of films as well. When Dreams May Come. I haven't seen that one either. But he did like a few more dramatic roles, didn't he, over his course. Course of his career?

Well, he did lots of different things but he had sort of feel good slash drama. Good Will Hunting, I suppose as well.

Darren: 00:03:05

Yeah, it's a drama. So it means Robin Williams has to sit on a bench at some point.

Paul: 00:03:09

Yeah, that's a good point. I also put maybe Hospital Brain. I haven't seen Rayman either, but.

Marc: 00:03:17

You haven't seen Rayman.

Paul: 00:03:18

No.

Marc: 00:03:19

That's a small tally in the list of films I've seen. You have.

Paul: 00:03:22

I know.

Marc: 00:03:23

Wow.

Paul: 00:03:23

I've got them stacked already. Watch. I just haven't seen them yet.

But I'm imagine because it came up after I'd finished this one on Amazon prime saying maybe watch Romance or maybe that's one. And I also got some House vibes. I watched a lot of. I watched House when he was trying to figure it out and things there was. That's what House.

House is basically. If you've not seen. It's almost like Sherlock Holmes but medical. So. So he tries to figure out how to fix people. What's. He's a diagnostician.

Darren: 00:03:48

Yes.

Paul: 00:03:49

In the room, so board certified. Oh yeah, of course. He's got attitude. Is that man. Yeah.

Darren: 00:03:54

It's always Lupus.

Marc: 00:03:55

This movie will appreciate. Appreciate you just being alive.

Darren: 00:03:59

Yeah.

Marc: 00:04:00

A life just been able to experience things and have memories and well, emotions.

Darren: 00:04:04

I think I. I don't tend to watch drama because there's enough drama in my own life. But what drama does really well is show it allows you to look through a keyhole, another way of living or someone else's story.

And yes, fun to watch action movies or war films even if they're based on true story. You would get an insight into stuff, but when it's a drama, it's like, wow. Other. Other people suffer. Like other people go through a lot.

Marc: 00:04:28

I think every once in a while you need to watch a movie like this.

Paul: 00:04:30

And we haven't mentioned yet that this is based on real events. It is based on a real. Real events in a book like this.

Darren: 00:04:36

1969.

Marc: 00:04:37

Yeah.

Darren: 00:04:38

And I think it was written by. Well, there's. The book is written by Oliver Sachs, MD.

Paul: 00:04:43

That's whose kind of based Robin Williams is based on. Yeah.

Marc: 00:04:45

Because the value of life isn't measured in length. It's the depth. It's like the experiences, memory, connections with people.

Paul: 00:04:52

I put human spirit and simple things.

Marc: 00:04:55

All of that into spotlight. Basically, he's an uncle. He uses unconventional methods to try and get through these people because no one else has been able to get through to them.

Paul: 00:05:03

No. And at one point they are looking at it and realizing, oh, this has just been left untouched.

So the character going into this environment is what kind of propels the narrative forward for the film.

Darren: 00:05:13

I'm not entirely sure it was unconventional. I think he just tried methods and people had given up for like decades and just hadn't tried anything.

Paul: 00:05:20

They just accepted them to the fate. And. Yeah.

Darren: 00:05:22

And he's worth trying. Let's try finding a course, try fixing. Let's find out what. What this is as.

Marc: 00:05:26

Again, I've started like writing notes. I used to just wing it, but now I've started writing notes about.

Paul: 00:05:31

So proud.

Marc: 00:05:32

So as it.

Paul: 00:05:32

You're a nerd. Yeah, totally.

Marc: 00:05:36

Okay.

As the story unfolds, it explores themes of compassion, perseverance, and the question of what does it truly mean to be alive, like in the present world?

Darren: 00:05:46

Yeah. And also, what's the word I'm looking for? Like inspiring other people. Because he's approaching fresh eyes, starts to inspire other people.

Marc: 00:05:54

That's true.

Darren: 00:05:55

And you know, I work in the teaching profession and there's. There's times, there's months when that can be a real grind. And even like in recent times, you.

Someone's joined the team who's just got energy and it's like a ray of.

Marc: 00:06:06

Inspiration is kind of infection.

Darren: 00:06:08

And you're like, yeah, just. I can try new techniques, I can try new strategies. Just get our energy up again. You know, it's amazing when those people join your workplace.

Paul: 00:06:16

And sometimes you need that outer perspective almost to. To make you go, oh, why? You tried that outside the box.

Marc: 00:06:24

Yeah. Or flipping something on its head and go, why not try this way?

Paul: 00:06:28

Like, I Said it's that he says in the film I'm not very good with people. But then in the film you sort of see him working with all these people because he's a very compassionate character.

And then seeing how his character act goes through as well.

Darren: 00:06:40

Yeah.

Paul: 00:06:40

Again, inspirational. Both him going into the place, but then the inspiration he gets from the patients as well. So it's kind of that two way thing.

He's bringing inspiration with his new ideas and they're giving him inspiration just by what happens in the film.

Marc: 00:06:54

Okay, let's move into part two, which is the unboxing located in spoiler territory. So from this point forward, there will be spoilers.

So if we've piqued your interest and you feel like you want to go watch Awakenings, feel free to go and do so now, then come back because there will be spoilers from this point forward. So in the unboxing we have what did you miss? Where we will highlight things you may have missed. Even if you've seen the movie many times.

Paul will give us his amazing facts of the day and we round off with Hate it or Rate it where we each give our opinion and a score out of 10 and see where it lands on the Legend League. What did we miss in Awakenings? I'll go to you first, Darren. The horn section.

Paul: 00:07:32

This is the horn section.

Darren: 00:07:33

these places were and how in: 1969

And it's like, yeah, we call this place the Garden. It's sweet and we keep them fed.

Marc: 00:07:49

And water sugar coating it.

Darren: 00:07:50

Sugarcoat in it, really. And I think it's interesting that when Leonard can speak, I'm curious to think about the things they witnessed that he could have called him out on.

He could have been like, wait, you did this to me while I was in that state. Or you didn't do anything, or you didn't do anything.

Or like I really wanted him to say when he meets the main woman who kind of is helping Robin Williams, his character, him to be like, oh, I appreciate that you are nice to me. And even just having that line would have been good because it would have suggested that some of the other people aren't nice.

Marc: 00:08:18

I think initially though, they're just so happy to be alive.

Darren: 00:08:21

Yeah.

Marc: 00:08:22

That just takes precedent of everything. They just want to live and just experience things.

Darren: 00:08:26

Yeah. And because there's a bit Where I think there's two nurses who have checked out.

They're like, oh, we've given their drugs and then they're just watching a soap opera.

Marc: 00:08:31

Yeah, yeah.

Darren: 00:08:32

I think that's kind of the reality of it. And I think the thing that they don't really make clear is that they've almost got like, locked in syndrome.

Like, they're kind of aware of what's going on. And he went, he goes and asks Max Bonsai do. And he's like, oh, we know they're not. They're not awake in there. And he's. How do you know?

He's like, because it would be unthinkable if they are so. Well, so you'll just say, no, that can't be true because it's unthinkable. And it makes me.

I remember that fact that, you know, scientists and the medical profession used to think the babies couldn't feel pain, so they would just operate on them with no anesthetic and stuff.

Paul: 00:09:06

Just think, I always think that, like, what will we know tomorrow? The stuff that we used to believe that we now know is not good. And it's like, what do we believe now still?

That one day someone's going to look back and be like, wow, did they really think that?

Marc: 00:09:19

Like back in the 50s when doctors used to prescribe smoking cigarettes.

Paul: 00:09:22

Yeah, exactly. And now they're like, yeah, not so good.

Marc: 00:09:25

Back in the days before research.

Paul: 00:09:27

Yeah, research, me search. Who needs that?

Darren: 00:09:30

But that's. That's really the. My kind of takeaway from it. Just this.

Yeah, it was a slightly kind of standardized view of it and I think it would be easy to skip over just what. How hellish I think these places could have been at that time period.

Paul: 00:09:43

For me, that hit home probably the most was, we're in spoiler zone, aren't we?

Marc: 00:09:47

Yeah, you never know where we are. You are.

Paul: 00:09:49

I know we are. But I like to double check before I blurt out like a massive spoiler in. In the film. Obviously, he had.

They have the awakening and you start to see them as actual characters and.

Marc: 00:10:01

People and what kind of people they were.

Paul: 00:10:03

People they were and realizing they've lost all this time and then the sad downturn of the film, which I wasn't expecting because, you know, I'm prepared for my happy. No, you know, is where they start.

Marc: 00:10:14

To think about you.

Paul: 00:10:15

I found that turn really harsh to cope with, where it's like, no, no, they can't go back. And then someone says a line in the film around how well isn't that how all life works.

We all have this start and we have this end and there's these bits in the middle and it's just making the most of the bits in the middle or something like that. How we can just maximize the most. It really is a film that makes you feel inspired and privileged with the human spirit stuff.

Darren: 00:10:40

But also down to money. I mean, obviously it's set in America, so it's a whole financial thing.

And I just think as a society we should be judged by how we treat the most vulnerable. And the fact that they don't have like an amazing outdoor space or garden to sit in or the fact that.

Marc: 00:10:58

Tv, it's called the garden, they don't have a garden.

Darren: 00:11:00

Exactly. And the TVs kind of doing that, not focusing and yeah, the guy prefers it when it's flickering. Yeah. Vertically.

And it's like you can't get like a color TV or whatever. You can't. This is horrendous.

Marc: 00:11:11

That's what I'm saying. But again, they've written these people off so they don't think it's worth spending any money on these things.

They don't think it's gonna make any difference.

Paul: 00:11:16

But you talk about money as well. There's the scene where the. It's like, how much do you put a price on? Hum, on your human experience.

Marc: 00:11:22

Yeah.

Paul: 00:11:23

And it's like, well this drug's working with this guy. We need to give it to everyone. And he's like, well how much? And he says, write down somewhere. But he says, how much?

Darren: 00:11:31

He said x: 12000

Paul: 00:11:33

And he's like, yeah, well we can do that. And you think about that.

That's someone's seeing how at that point in the film that they thought this had fixed him or you know, improved his circumstances so much. They're like, no, we still can't do it. And then all the staff start putting in their checks.

Marc: 00:11:45

It was such a reflection on the society at that time. And even now someone's life has changed, but they're still asking questions about money.

Darren: 00:11:52

But also I saw that as an indictment on the system because it was like, well, these nurses and janitors and stuff are putting in money to provide health care that would have life changing implications. And you know, I'm in a teaching profession as you know, and there's a lot of teachers who have to do that.

And you know, I love teaching and I would kind of complain about the teenagers I teach a lot but you know, I get to teach film and, and you know, they make amazing Stuff sometimes. And you see them grow and it's. It's. Yeah, it's excellent seeing them develop a love of education and progress.

But again, teachers spend their own money on a lot of this.

Marc: 00:12:26

They shouldn't have to.

Darren: 00:12:27

No. You know, then he's got to go and pitch. Who is it that they.

Marc: 00:12:30

The directors or the. Whatever. The. Yeah.

Darren: 00:12:32

And then they all kind of sign checks. But the government should be funding this stuff. It's horrendous.

Paul: 00:12:35

But that was a bit. It's like, well, what's the bottom line? I'm thinking, well, never mind the bottom line.

You've just discovered that this might change all these people's lives. And it's amazing. I think that everything's so. The film we reviewed last week, everything's about money. Everything's about making this money thing.

It's like, well, where's the human experience in all this? And I know the world's got to revolve somehow and we maybe need.

Marc: 00:12:55

It always has revolved around money, but more so now than ever.

Paul: 00:12:58

But when it gets to that thing where it's like, well, you've seen. It's just changed this guy from what, almost a coma pretty much. And a. To actually function in human being. Yeah.

Powerful, powerful film in terms of that kind of message throughout it.

Darren: 00:13:14

Honestly, I think the other thing is the warning. How easy it is to get jaded in your job and just take things for granted and then to dehumanize people and just be like, absolutely, I'm not gonna.

I'm just gonna get through the day and put myself first and. Yeah, but Bobby Williams is really good at doing that kind of innocent, kind of fairy tale dreamer kind of character.

Marc: 00:13:36

Very laid back role for him. This was very holding back, very reserved compared to what we used to.

Darren: 00:13:41

Yes, I have thoughts on that. When it gets to our opinion.

Marc: 00:13:46

Okay, okay. What? Something I don't know if anyone picked up on is how he also had an awakening because he doesn't do anything. He goes home, he's nothing.

By the end of the film he goes, yes, I will go on a date with you. Yes, I will do this. He starts opening up to things because he's realized he's not preciating life.

He's just walk going through the motions and just doing the same thing.

Darren: 00:14:04

That also had Good Will Hunting vibes for me. I was going to see about the girl.

Marc: 00:14:08

Is that woman the voice of Marge Simpson?

Paul: 00:14:11

Correct?

Darren: 00:14:11

Julie Kavan pissing on your.

Marc: 00:14:14

Sorry, I know.

Paul: 00:14:15

I was saving that one.

Marc: 00:14:16

I think everyone picked up on that straight away.

Darren: 00:14:18

I didn't.

Marc: 00:14:19

Did you?

Darren: 00:14:19

No, not at all.

Marc: 00:14:20

Okay. So as you started talking, I was like, is that Marge Simpson?

Paul: 00:14:24

That would have been.

Marc: 00:14:25

Sorry for.

Paul: 00:14:26

Just pissed all over my thing. No, that's fine.

Marc: 00:14:28

I can edit that bit out if you want.

Paul: 00:14:29

No, no, no, it's fine.

Darren: 00:14:30

I just figured it was an actress doing a voice, not her actual voice.

Marc: 00:14:34

She was picked because of her voice. And that's. That's it.

Paul: 00:14:36

But don't forget, the Simpsons started, what.

Marc: 00:14:38

1989, I think it was. Already started.

Paul: 00:14:42

Just about started at that point. But that's quite a sweet relationship between them two because that sort of develops over the film as well.

Leonard says, oh, she likes you, basically. You know, you're a kind man.

Darren: 00:14:54

And he may have quit. He was almost gonna quit. And she walks out and she says, I like your version better.

Marc: 00:15:00

Yeah. That gives him just enough to keep going.

Darren: 00:15:02

But isn't that true of most men?

Marc: 00:15:05

We just need, like, encouragement, support, a pat on the back.

Darren: 00:15:08

Yeah. Just. You're doing okay. Keep going. Okay, thanks.

Paul: 00:15:11

He was almost as pivotal as him in that place, as that team, I suppose.

Darren: 00:15:15

Yeah, for sure.

Paul: 00:15:16

That's what kept him going.

Darren: 00:15:17

And also in winning over the rest of the staff.

Paul: 00:15:19

Yeah.

Marc: 00:15:20

I have something I picked up on, which I don't. I definitely wouldn't have picked up on this if I wasn't a parent now. But there was, like, some parenting child references.

When he takes the group on that trip, they're bored. Like, he takes you to the places that he wants to go. He's not thinking, what would they want to do?

And there's later in the film, or maybe even early in the film, where the woman visiting her son.

Darren: 00:15:39

Yeah.

Marc: 00:15:39

And she goes, you don't have children, do you? And he goes, if you did, you'd know.

Darren: 00:15:42

But also, it kind of hints at the toxic kind of mother relationship where she would rather he was in that comatose state so she can look after him almost like he's a doll.

Marc: 00:15:53

She want to become independent?

Darren: 00:15:55

No. And, you know, we hear stories.

Marc: 00:15:56

That's normal parenting, though.

Darren: 00:15:58

Yeah. And it can be like, some parents will sabotage your kids.

Chances are going to uni because they want them to stay close to home or they don't want them to leave because it gets wrapped up in your sense of identity. I think it can get wrapped up in your sense of identity, being a parent. And it's like leaving the military or leaving, like, a prison. It's become.

Marc: 00:16:14

Well, some people, all they have is parenting.

Darren: 00:16:16

Yeah.

Marc: 00:16:16

Once a child has left, flown the nest. They've got nothing.

Darren: 00:16:18

And they'll be like, what's your greatest of achievement? Oh, you know, having a child. It's. You haven't brought up a kid who's cured cancer.

Marc: 00:16:25

You could be a career criminal. You proud of that?

Darren: 00:16:27

Yeah.

Paul: 00:16:28

Well, then that takes the kid's identity away because. Because there's a bit with De Niro, he's doing his hair for the first time because he's lost 30 years of his life, hasn't he?

So he starts doing his own hair and. And she's like, what have you done to your hair?

Marc: 00:16:39

Yeah, these, like, conversations you would have, like a little kid when he started, like, becoming himself and.

Paul: 00:16:43

But that's him trying to forge his new identity, isn't it? And she's like, no, no, you know, you're still my. My boy.

Marc: 00:16:49

So this film was based on Oliver Sacks.

Darren: 00:16:52

Yeah.

Marc: 00:16:52

Real life memoir, which adds a bit of weight to the story. I had to look it up. I did. I wasn't aware of it.

Darren: 00:16:57

Which is also. I get why it's sanitized, because, you know, the bad guy isn't massively a bad guy. He's just a bit of a pure crowd.

And it's got to manage the hospital and keep money. He's got to balance the books.

But I'm curious if in the real, real story, there were some people who are much darker in the way they kind of ran things or the way they behaved.

Paul: 00:17:15

Well, John Heard was the guy in question, the actor playing that character. And Penny Marshall directed it. And I'm almost like, penny Marshall. Why do I know that name?

I know it because she directed one of my favorite childhood films, which is slightly problematic now, Darren, but let's not go down the road. But a film called Big with Tom Hanks. And John Heard is in that, which.

Darren: 00:17:35

Is interesting because then she's got two movies where adult actors are playing children within.

Paul: 00:17:39

That's true.

Darren: 00:17:40

And she led both of them to Oscar nominations.

Marc: 00:17:43

I haven't seen Big film when I was a kid. I saw loads, but I wonder why. It's problematic, but I'm thinking, yeah, the age. The age gap.

Paul: 00:17:51

Yeah.

Marc: 00:17:52

Especially if that was the other way. Anyway, still. I'm sure we will do that.

Paul: 00:17:57

It's still a childhood favorite film of mine because he had. He had the coolest apartment of all time.

Marc: 00:18:01

Yeah. Great film. Every. Every child. Every child's fantasy, that film. Yeah.

Paul: 00:18:04

But John Heard apparently didn't want to play it too much like the character he played in big.

Darren: 00:18:09

Okay.

Paul: 00:18:10

So they changed it about A little bit. So, like you say, that was my point.

Maybe the real life version was a little bit more harsh, and the only reason he had a bit more empathy was because John Hurd didn't want to play the same character as he did in Big.

Marc: 00:18:22

I thought De Niro's acting was good in this. Like, the. The physical, like, all the gestures and the twitching, like, that took some.

Yeah, that's a masterclass in portraying, like, an illness or in recovery as well. But there's also the bit of sweet contrast between initial joy of recovery, but also the heartbreak of, like, decline, I suppose.

Paul: 00:18:40

Yeah. I found that particularly heartbreaking. Because you thought. Well, I thought it was going to be the sort of movie where they all got better.

Darren: 00:18:46

But I also wonder, would some of them have said, don't let me go back to that.

Paul: 00:18:51

Yeah, I don't want to go back to that state.

Marc: 00:18:52

Yeah. Well, a lot of them showed signs of despair because of how much time had passed.

Darren: 00:18:56

Yeah.

Marc: 00:18:57

Or they just wanted to. They just want to go outside because they were okay with the fact that they've lost a lot of life, but they just wanted to get out and escape.

Paul: 00:19:05

That's where Leonard was feeling like he's woke up from this cage of himself, but now he's been kept in his.

Marc: 00:19:11

Own cage, but he's also feeling like, I'm fine, I'm okay.

Darren: 00:19:15

Yeah.

Marc: 00:19:16

He's like, can I just go down, have a coffee and just watch people?

Paul: 00:19:18

But then obviously starts to decline again. And watching that struggle back to the.

Marc: 00:19:22

Decline it's portrayed, it's almost like that is the point where he declines because he's been told no. Try and say yes as much as possible. An emotional roller coaster, that one.

Paul: 00:19:30

I wrote a note about seeing, like, seeing things because there's a lot of glasses cleaning. Lots of focus. Seeing. And she catches the glasses, and he sees something that they don't see well after.

Marc: 00:19:44

Every time he cleans his glasses, something happens.

Paul: 00:19:46

Yeah, yeah. And the fact that they've all got this reflex, and he's the one who sees that, whereas no one else was looking for it.

And then at the end, obviously, he. He then has his awakening by saying, let's go for a cup of coffee with Madge Simpson.

Marc: 00:19:58

Yeah.

Paul: 00:19:59

Sorry, Julie. Sorry.

Marc: 00:20:02

But, yeah, not ashamed to admit I cried twice in this film.

Darren: 00:20:04

Oh, wow.

Marc: 00:20:05

So the first one was when she saw him. When she came in, saw him, like, basically alive after being a vegetable. That was quite.

The second one was when he just wanted to go for a walk and they wouldn't Let him.

Paul: 00:20:16

Yeah, he gets all stressed.

Marc: 00:20:18

That got me the years ago and watched it and that got me now.

Paul: 00:20:21

I had a few moments. I was struggling.

Marc: 00:20:22

Yeah.

Paul: 00:20:23

Particularly when they all started to go back to what they were after having started declining again.

Marc: 00:20:27

Yeah. You realize this was only going to be a temporary thing. It's not sustainable. No, basically.

Paul: 00:20:32

And that speech, when Robin Williams does say about. It's.

It's life, and there's like a kind of, like you say, goodwill hunting sort of vibe to whatever speech he says at the end, which is quite Hollywood, I suppose, as well. But it kind of hits you in the fields with actually seeing where it all went. And again, Robert, what's it called?

Leonard, the character, you know, he meets this girl and for a minute they. You think, oh, he's met this girl and she's very nice with them. And you think, oh, this is gonna be the romance bit of the film.

But then obviously he declines the next time they're together and he's struggling to get through it. And. And it was nice, though, to see that she still went and read to him.

Marc: 00:21:11

She didn't give up on him.

Paul: 00:21:12

She didn't give up on him. And there's the dance scene that was very emotive as well.

Marc: 00:21:15

Yeah. So, Yeah, I forgot about that.

Paul: 00:21:17

Yeah. Yeah. Where she saw the whole. And it's Tremors stop for a little bit because he feels like he's being held.

Marc: 00:21:21

Tough one. Tough.

Paul: 00:21:23

Tough.

Marc: 00:21:23

It's a very sad film. It's a sad film.

Paul: 00:21:26

It's done in that sort of light tone that you would expect from the 90s and these sort of drama things. But, yeah, the underlying. But the messages that you take away from it are probably the important things with this one.

Marc: 00:21:36

Yeah. It's also unconventional. It doesn't have a happy ending.

Paul: 00:21:39

No.

Marc: 00:21:40

Which is not what we used to. Certainly Spielberg wouldn't do this film well.

Paul: 00:21:44

Or maybe he would. But the reality. Because it's a based on a true story.

Marc: 00:21:47

Yeah.

Paul: 00:21:48

Isn't it?

Marc: 00:21:49

Okay, that takes us on to Paul's Facts of the day.

Paul: 00:21:52

Backs of the day. Did you know that the person who plays the nurse is actually Marge Simpson? Oh, oh, wait, wait. That one's already been done. I was gonna mention it.

It's fun. It had six wins and 11 nominations. The Academy Award nominations. It had three.

So Best Picture, Best Actor in a Leading Role for Robert De Niro and Best Writing Screenplay Based on Material from the book.

Marc: 00:22:17

Did it win any?

Paul: 00:22:18

No, they were all nominee ones.

Marc: 00:22:20

Do you know what it lost out to?

Paul: 00:22:21

No, I meant to that year. Yeah, it'd be interesting to know, actually, because I can't imagine much being as dramatic as De Niro is in that role. Anyway, onwards we go.

Some more facts of the day. Prior to filming, the cast members portraying the patient studied films of Dr. Oliver Sacks. Post I can't say this word. Encephalitis, Is that right?

Encephalitis patients and De Niro and Robin Williams spent times with Sachs in the hospital observing him and his patients. So they did research to get that follow for the movie.

De Niro actually filmed a scene with Lillian T. Who was the only surviving patient from the book.

most outspoken patient in the: 1974

However, the studio insisted that she read for the part first and Winters refused to do so. So when she met the casting director, she reportedly put both her Oscars on his desk and said, some people think I can act.

Marc: 00:23:25

Ooh, egotistical biatch.

Paul: 00:23:29

Bit of. Bit of ego in there then. And as we already sort of alluded to, it's.

It's a nonfiction book by Oliver Sacks and the character of Sayer is based closely on sex. So the name that Leonard spells out on the Ouija board is German poet Rainer Maria Ryleke.

And the poem that Dr. Sayer quotes in the place is called the Panther. And known to be very private and reserved person on film sets.

Robert De Niro acknowledged in interviews that Robin Williams was one of his very few co stars whom he loved interacting with and joking with when the camera wasn't rolling.

And De Niro said that Williams really helped him be at ease during filming, as the two knew, as the two were known to have lots of fun with each other off camera. And despite this, De Niro also praised Williams as a very focused and professional actor as well.

Marc: 00:24:16

I heard Robert Williams has that effect on a lot of people.

Paul: 00:24:18

Yeah, you rarely hear people ever talking about if ever. The rock on which Leonard stands is named Killy Rock. It is in Edgewater Park, a small waterfront community in the Bronx, New York.

Marc: 00:24:31

I like that bit where he's just.

Paul: 00:24:33

He's like, come back. He's like, no, I'm free, Mumby Rock.

Marc: 00:24:36

That's what it looks like to be alive.

Paul: 00:24:38

And then this one was surprising. Robert De Niro turned down the role of Harry Lime in Home Alone, which also featured John Hurd obviously as the dad.

And it was to do this movie instead. His good friend and frequent co star Joe Pesci was instead given the role in Home Alone.

And that proves to be the highest comedy film of all time and was still the number one box office hit by the time this movie was released in theaters. And Diderot praise. Can that be right? Was homolone 89? I thought that was 90.

Marc: 00:25:05

I think it was 90.

Paul: 00:25:06

Wow. So it must have become the highest comedy quite quick.

Marc: 00:25:09

Oh, well, it would have been Christmas 89, wouldn't it?

Paul: 00:25:11

Ah, that makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. So De Niro praised Pesci as a better choice for the role anyway and. Okay, one more. I lied. One more.

De Niro almost worked with Penny Marshall in Big and he was initially penciled in for the lead role by Marshall for it, but the studio didn't want him as the lead for a comedy. So De Niro eventually left the project. And Marshall still wanted to work with him, however, and chose him for the lead role here.

And I'm sure read another one about her wanting Bill Murray, but then thinking, no, it'd be too much of a comedy, so they went for De Niro. So there you go, some facts of the day.

Marc: 00:25:43

Okay, thank you, Paul. That takes us on to hate it or rate it. So I guess I'll go first since it was my choice.

I enjoyed this movie, although it didn't make me feel very good. The way it made me feel was impressive, if you know what I mean.

There was points where it's like, I was really happy, it was really joyous, but it also made me cry.

Paul: 00:26:03

It's a roller coaster.

Marc: 00:26:04

It's a roller coaster motion. But I thought it was very well put together. It was impactful. Years ago when I saw it, it was pretty much the same now.

It's been so much time since I've seen it. And there were certain parts I remembered, certain parts I'd completely forgotten. So it was parts of it. Like watching it all over again.

Paul: 00:26:17

You say you were only young when you watched it.

Marc: 00:26:19

Yeah, I was probably like a teenager.

Paul: 00:26:20

Okay.

Marc: 00:26:21

And it was just one of those. Well, you didn't have the Internet back then, so it was on. And I remember it. Yeah, I remember what it was called because I looked at.

I remember looking at the TV Guide. What was that film called? Awakening.

Paul: 00:26:29

You had a TV Guide?

Marc: 00:26:30

Never. I remembered that's gone in there because certain scenes were just ingrained in my brain.

Like when he couldn't go for a walk and still made me think and made Me appreciate being alive, been able to go for a walk and maybe want to do more things, talk to people and meet friends and, you know, do things. So, yeah, I'm going to give it. I'm going to give it 8.9 because overall it did make me sad. I really. I'm glad I've watched it.

I think more people should watch it. Just appreciate being a human being.

Paul: 00:26:52

Definitely gives you that reaction, doesn't it?

Marc: 00:26:54

Yeah.

Paul: 00:26:55

Especially if you've not experienced that kind of trauma, I guess.

Marc: 00:26:58

Let's go to you, Paul. What do you think?

Paul: 00:27:01

Same as you. Emotional roller coaster. Well put together because it had the sweet moments and it had the dramatic moments.

The biggest thing for me was, same as you coming away from it going, wow, what am I worrying about with all the deaf stuff? I worry about when you could be trapped in your own body like these people are. But seeing the joy when they did have the awakening scenes, hard.

I like the way De Niro played it. You feel very invested with him. You can see why it was Oscar nominated again. Surprised he didn't want, to be honest.

It must have been something else to knock him out of the running for that one.

Darren: 00:27:34

Oscars get it wrong quite a bit though.

Marc: 00:27:37

Just some people's opinion.

Paul: 00:27:38

This true. So, yeah, very emotional film.

But I liked little scenes where I like the bit where they talked about visual rhythm and the lady would get to the end of the floor and because the squares stopped.

Marc: 00:27:51

Took him a while to work out what it was. He's like with the table out of the way. Yeah, she's still not moving.

Paul: 00:27:56

I think she was going for the water machine. And then they filled in the square.

Marc: 00:28:00

That was good.

Paul: 00:28:00

She walked. Actually. She was going to the window just.

Marc: 00:28:03

To see the outside world because we.

Paul: 00:28:04

Often don't know what people are thinking. Yeah. I can't really say much more that I already said in the rest of it all. I just found it very, very inspiring because I have a tendency.

I have a very introvert side. I have a tendency of, oh, that's a bit dangerous. I don't want to do that. Oh, I'm not going to go there.

Marc: 00:28:20

Saying no to a lot of things.

Paul: 00:28:22

Yeah. Yeah. So I'm watching Robin Williams character going, yeah, should I be doing more? Am I trapping myself? Should I be more awakened? So I enjoyed it.

Good movie. Never heard of it. What am I going to give it? That's what you're going to ask me because of the way it made me kind of inspired.

I'm gonna give it an eight. I Think. I mean, I only watched it last night. Confession. But today I'm fresh. It's fresh in my head and I'm still thinking about some of the. The stuff.

Thinking. Yeah, I take that for granted. I take this for granted. I need to appreciate that more.

Darren: 00:28:50

What if you've done. If there was an emergency last night and you didn't get time to watch the movie and you let us both down, I'd never.

Paul: 00:28:56

I'd never let you down, Aaron. What kind of a movie?

Marc: 00:29:00

A power cut.

Paul: 00:29:03

What kind of emergency? A power cut. What have you done?

Marc: 00:29:06

I don't know. I'm panicking late to watch this movie, Darren, Picking holes in your approach?

Paul: 00:29:11

I was living life on the edge.

Darren: 00:29:12

It's like you're not invested at all.

Marc: 00:29:14

That's him living life on the edge.

Paul: 00:29:16

It was the only time I could fit it in.

Marc: 00:29:17

All right, that's hilarious. Okay, you give it an 8.

I'm gonna cautiously move the hater orator gun across over to Darren because he hasn't said much and usually this is bad when he goes quiet.

Paul: 00:29:28

I know.

Darren: 00:29:29

I was just ill over the weekend, so I didn't get as much.

Marc: 00:29:31

Okay. Darren, what did you make of this film?

Darren: 00:29:33

They hated it.

Marc: 00:29:35

I kind of felt that was coming.

Paul: 00:29:36

I was waiting for that bombshell.

Marc: 00:29:39

Yeah, she hated it.

Paul: 00:29:40

You must have took something good. I think.

Darren: 00:29:42

I think it took a opening scenes. Took a while to get going. Those kids were annoying. And then the teacher. There was just some stuff done, like filmmaking techniques I didn't like.

Like at one point she's writing in her like mark book and then she runs her finger down looking for the. The gap. I said, we don't do that. We just scan to where it is. And then she runs another finger, like horizontally to the name.

It's like no one does that. It's like, oh, there's a gap. Oh, it's that guy. What the hell's his book that might.

Paul: 00:30:06

Have done in the 60s, you know, lame.

Darren: 00:30:10

And then. And then it kind of jumps. So you don't really care for this Leonard guy because you don't see him as a kid enough.

I mean, they could have had that go on, I think for like 30 minutes or so. And it really got invested in these kids relationship and the deterioration and stuff. But then it jumps. And I don't really care about these.

Paul: 00:30:25

Adults because, yeah, I don't know the character.

Darren: 00:30:28

I haven't got their personality or anything. And not that fast. And then my main thing is this whole kind of awakening and feeling good. I Think they were miscast. I think you should switch them.

I think Robin Williams would have been better as a Leonard character and Robert De Niro would have been better as a socially awkward doctor because there's a couple of scenes that don't really land that well, particularly when Leonard is like, oh, my God, these people don't understand how great life is. But it's De Niro saying that, and it doesn't really fill me with, like, that sense of joy. Whereas if Robin Williams was doing See that?

And he was like, oh, my God, life is amazing. Drinking coffee is amazing. Apples are amazing. Sunsets are amazing.

Marc: 00:31:05

Yeah.

Paul: 00:31:05

And full Robin Williams flow.

Darren: 00:31:07

I. I'd get really pulled into that. But even then, Robin Williams is then trying to convince people to give them money. It's a really lame presentation. And I'm just like.

And she passes him the note. Like, less science, but it's really dry. Then they're like, oh, we're going to give you all the money.

I was like, is that really how dry it was when you just move. If I up, you know, make it a speech. Like, it really didn't.

Marc: 00:31:30

Like a Braveheart kind of speech.

Darren: 00:31:31

Yeah. Like, get me going.

But then I was just, you know, like, I was saying, like, heartbroken that places like this exist, people are abandoned, and then the real horror is this idea that they were going to go back into that world.

And I just think there's one horror where you've been kind of locked in and you've just been witnessing your life pass by, then you get a break for freedom, and then, you know, you're going back in, and that's it. And, yeah, I just thought it was heartbreaking, and I didn't feel. I am absolutely 100 grateful for everything that's in my life. My life is.

It's wonderful. So, yeah, I felt. I just felt. I felt sad. And by the. The filmmaking for me wasn't. Wasn't kind of bright or energetic or.

Paul: 00:32:15

I can. I can get that. Yeah.

Darren: 00:32:17

Yeah.

Marc: 00:32:17

But you have a different perspective from. Yeah, so.

Darren: 00:32:20

No, absolutely. But I'm surprised at how. How extreme our. Our differences of opinion are.

And it may have been just because, you know, I was ill over the weekend and I didn't test for Kobe, but, you know, my kid had Covid.

Marc: 00:32:30

This is a weird one, because it. I thought it made me feel sad. I was quite pleased how it made me feel sad, because the overall results, I got it.

Darren: 00:32:38

For me, it's a bit of a dated: 1990

Paul: 00:32:47

I mean, visually as well. There's not a lot of color or which is that environment, isn't it? But it's not visually satisfying as a film. It's very much about the performance of.

Darren: 00:32:58

Yeah. And you've got a really talented, rich cast around him. And they will. Don't really get to do that much stuff.

And I didn't even believe the main relationship. I was like, those guys don't have chemistry. They're settling because they work in the same field and they admire each other.

It's not like one of them tried bowling and fell over. And then he started laughing so much. And then they got married. I just was.

Paul: 00:33:20

If you haven't listened to our last episode, you need to check that out right now. Yeah, I.

Darren: 00:33:24

There was no meet cute. There was just no chemistry. It was just, oh, do you want to go for coffee? Yeah. Okay. Why? Just because you're there. So. I think it's wonderful.

I think it's wonderfully based on the true story. Then we. The other takeaway I have is that, you know, fresh eyes. And it does. It made me want to be a better teacher.

I'm a pretty freaking fantastic teacher.

Paul: 00:33:42

You got the fans teaching students.

Marc: 00:33:46

They're fans.

Darren: 00:33:46

Yeah. Yeah. But it did. It made me step back and just be like, what aren't I seeing? Like, if I came in with fresh eyes, what can we do differently?

How can we mix things up? And I actually have started doing that in terms of the way they submit work with mixing up some different options.

Marc: 00:34:03

Because of this movie.

Darren: 00:34:04

Yeah.

Paul: 00:34:04

How can we clean our glasses?

Marc: 00:34:05

That's pretty powerful.

Darren: 00:34:06

Yeah. Just.

Marc: 00:34:07

But you still said you stick until you. You hated this movie.

Darren: 00:34:10

Yeah. Yeah. I. I felt bored all the time and I was just like, oh, this is this. And. And you knew. I knew it was going to end badly.

I was like, that he's going to go back into this. This isn't it.

Paul: 00:34:23

That would took me right off guard.

Darren: 00:34:25

Yeah. It's gonna disappear. So I just wish. Yeah. I think it'd be interesting if they switch roles.

Would have been good if you had more chemistry with the romantic kind of relationship. Yeah. It's just kind of heartbreaking that this happens. And I don't know how we treat people with similar conditions now, but I freaking hope it's.

It's.

Marc: 00:34:42

There's no gardens out there still.

Darren: 00:34:44

But it's also. It's kind of the way we infantilize the Elderly as well. And I think that we can all even.

I can be like, if I'm in a hurry and there's like an elderly person being too slow in the supermarket, I can catch myself and be like, oh, but you.

Marc: 00:35:00

I always think that's gonna be me one day.

Darren: 00:35:02

Yeah.

Marc: 00:35:03

So what are you gonna give out?

Darren: 00:35:04

10 one.

Marc: 00:35:05

What?

Darren: 00:35:06

Yeah.

Marc: 00:35:07

What even less than Minecraft?

Darren: 00:35:09

Yeah.

Paul: 00:35:10

Even though we've had this very deep discussion built off the fact that we watch this film because you got more.

Marc: 00:35:15

Out of this than you got Minecraft, but you've given it less than Minecraft.

Darren: 00:35:17

Yeah.

Marc: 00:35:19

Sticking to it.

Darren: 00:35:21

I also think it was always going to be a one. But then it's also interesting that that's the most different our scores have been.

Marc: 00:35:26

Yeah.

Paul: 00:35:27

Wowzers. I am in shock.

Darren: 00:35:29

It's not the film that made me feel those things. It's the story. It's the original story. It's. It's that that happened. Like I could have watched it.

I could have read an article on that and it would have given me the same feeling. Because the characters. Matt didn't particularly win me over. Leonard didn't particularly win me over.

Like when De Niro smiles, I just think of Cape Fear. Like he's not charming, you know? And his relationship with the woman I thought was. Was weird. I didn't think they had chemistry either.

I don't see what she would have seen in him. Like I just didn't get it.

Paul: 00:36:00

Which is what they used to say to John Hurd in Big. I don't get it.

Darren: 00:36:04

Yeah.

Paul: 00:36:04

What don't you get?

Marc: 00:36:05

You give it eight.

Paul: 00:36:06

Yeah, I'll stick with that just because of the way it made me feel.

Marc: 00:36:09

Okay, let's see where it lands in the league going down. It puts it in 27th out of 39, so it puts it just behind Snatch. So snatch is on 18.2. So awakens on 70.9. And crazy stupid love was 17.5.

As well as leave the world behind is always 70.5.

Darren: 00:36:28

That's not too bad though. That's in pretty good company.

Marc: 00:36:30

Yeah, it is a pretty good company.

Paul: 00:36:31

That. That's the most diverse you both had though, because what was your 8.9?

Marc: 00:36:35

Almost one. Yeah.

Paul: 00:36:37

Wow.

Marc: 00:36:38

There you go. That's what makes the world go round.

Paul: 00:36:39

That's movies, we're pretty boring if we.

Marc: 00:36:42

All loved every movie or hate every movie the same. So I'm okay with that.

Darren: 00:36:45

I feel bad cuz I'm the one who was on him. Like I didn't like Hot Shots. You loved Hot Shots. And I didn't love it.

Marc: 00:36:50

I didn't love it.

Darren: 00:36:50

Okay.

Marc: 00:36:51

But it was. I mean, it's in 36 out of 39. So it's.

Darren: 00:36:53

I think I'm probably going through something. I probably shouldn't have given up sniffing glue.

Paul: 00:37:01

Now that's. That's for a T shirt right there. Our merchandise stand is going to be amazing.

Marc: 00:37:07

Okay, thanks, gentlemen.

Darren: 00:37:08

I'm going to get hate mail, aren't I?

Marc: 00:37:10

We'll find out. I'll let you know.

Darren: 00:37:11

You're going to fabricate someone?

Marc: 00:37:14

Yeah, I hide it from him and I fabricate it for you.

Paul: 00:37:18

Yeah, I don't want to know.

Marc: 00:37:20

Let's move into part three, which is the listener lounge. So in part three, we have the lobby where we share your comments, your quest questions and your messages.

And then we have the question of the week and we round off with next week's movies. There's no question of the week this week because it was questions from the Bourne Identity, which only goes out tomorrow as we're recording this.

Okay, so we'll have to wait. So if you do want to get in touch with us, you can email us. Helloviewiesinanutshell.com youm can now leave us a voicemail.

So if you go to movies in a shell dot com, if you're on the desktop or the website, there is a button that will pop up on the side or the bottom which will say leave voicemail. So you can send us a message. You can just record it straight into your phone and we'll read some that.

Paul: 00:38:01

On the voicemail or fan mail.

Marc: 00:38:03

Listen to mail, listen to mail. Darren mail.

Paul: 00:38:07

Darren mail.

Marc: 00:38:07

Yeah. If you, if you hate Darren, you want to send him a message, go for it.

If you hate his scores, if you think his scores are wrong or ours, send us a message. If you just want to give us a shout out or anything like that, we'll read them out.

Paul: 00:38:17

We like your stories too.

Marc: 00:38:18

You actually play them if you were sending them all in? We'll play it on the show. Yeah.

Paul: 00:38:21

Okay, cool.

Marc: 00:38:22

Okay. Your voice is. Oh. In other news, which was just. I don't know if it was already announced, but there's gonna be a Spaceballs too.

Paul: 00:38:29

Yes. Mel brooks still directing 96 or something.

Darren: 00:38:32

Crazy.

Marc: 00:38:33

It's crazy with Bill Pullman's son is going to be in it.

Paul: 00:38:37

And Bill's back as well.

Marc: 00:38:38

But he's in it as well.

Paul: 00:38:39

I didn't realize Bill Pullman's son was Lewis Pullman. He's one of the pilots in Top Top Gun. Maverick.

Marc: 00:38:46

Is he?

Paul: 00:38:47

Yeah.

Marc: 00:38:47

Oh, I must have missed that.

Darren: 00:38:49

Yeah.

Paul: 00:38:50

I didn't realize it until it said about Hotshots and Lewis, Pullman's gonna be. And I'm like, wait a minute, I've seen him before.

Marc: 00:38:55

So that's. Could be interesting.

Paul: 00:38:56

Yeah.

Marc: 00:38:57

This could be another cash grab. Could be another sequel for sequel's sake to make some money.

Paul: 00:39:02

Which. What Spaceballs1 actually took the piss out of in Spaceballs1.

Marc: 00:39:06

Yeah.

Paul: 00:39:07

So we made the sequel the Quest for More Money or something. Yeah.

Marc: 00:39:12

So we may need to do Spaceballs and then if it's in the cinema, it might just be a straight to.

Paul: 00:39:16

No, I think it's going cinema wide.

Marc: 00:39:18

Cool. We may need to have a cinema trip also. We've always also started thinking about Christmas and what we're gonna do at Christmas.

Paul: 00:39:23

Where does this year go?

Marc: 00:39:24

The schedules, the cinema trip that will be in. In December.

Paul: 00:39:28

We were thinking that there wasn't many Christmas films coming up when we were chatting about it, weren't we?

Marc: 00:39:32

So the. The cinema, the Alhambra is going to let us know when they've decided what Christmas films are going to show.

Paul: 00:39:36

Because they normally show some classics, don't they?

Marc: 00:39:38

Do they? Do. So we'll put out the socials, we'll ask you guys, let you pick, and then we'll all go.

Paul: 00:39:43

I'm voting. We'll pick Christmas Carol because let's face it, it's amazing.

Marc: 00:39:46

Let's hope they show it. Okay, so that takes us on to this week's question of the Week, which I initially, I was thinking, what's the saddest movie you've ever seen?

No, no, no, let's not do that. Let's what? What's the happiest movie you've ever seen?

Paul: 00:40:00

Are you going the other way?

Marc: 00:40:00

Yeah, go the other way. I'll flip on his head. I didn't want any more doom and gloom.

Paul: 00:40:03

The one that's giving me the most joy.

Marc: 00:40:07

I haven't actually thought of this myself, but I thought it was. I thought I'd flip it on his head. Because you love a good, happy film. You love your rom coms. I know.

Paul: 00:40:12

I'm going through them now. Well, most rom coms have a nice upbeat ending, don't they?

Marc: 00:40:17

Yeah.

Paul: 00:40:18

So nearly every rom com I've seen, I think Hugh Hugo's got quite an uplifting. I'm going to watch the musical. So I'm going to say 13 going on 30.

Marc: 00:40:28

That's.

Paul: 00:40:29

That's an upbeat and Sliding doors. That's kind of a bittersweet. But uplifting thing. I like that one.

Marc: 00:40:34

You got any down?

Darren: 00:40:35

No, not really. I mean, the one that just makes me happy is an old Disney film called Blackbeard's Ghost. It's got Peter Youssef in it and I just laugh like crazy.

It's by the same team at the Mary Poppins, but it's nowhere near as kind of popular or well known. But it's Dean Jones as a straight man and Peter Youssanov as a drunken ghost pirate.

Marc: 00:40:57

That's the question of the weeks. What is the happiest movie you've ever seen? It can be what's made you laugh the most or what makes you feel the best. Anything like that.

Paul: 00:41:06

Oh, Palm Springs.

Marc: 00:41:07

Palm Springs is a good one. Yep. Didn't make Darren feel quite the same, but that's Darren for you.

Darren: 00:41:12

The life of pie is good.

Paul: 00:41:14

Oh, life of pie.

Marc: 00:41:15

Yes.

Paul: 00:41:15

That's a good one.

Marc: 00:41:16

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Okay, so that takes us on to next week's movie. This is Darren, what we're going for.

Darren: 00:41:55

Okay. I'm going to take a risk because I want to. I want to raise our very spirits after the last two movies that we've seen.

Yes, take a gamble on a movie that as a kid I really, really liked and thought was funny.

But I know from the glory of the Internet that a lot of people on this movie, it is actually don't even know what year it came out, but it's Hudson Hawk with. That's a good sound.

Marc: 00:42:18

That is.

Darren: 00:42:18

I think Danny Ayala yellow is in it.

Paul: 00:42:21

So I've never seen Hudson Hawk, but I've always wanted to.

Marc: 00:42:24

Another movie that I've seen that you have.

Paul: 00:42:25

There's a few. There's a few.

Marc: 00:42:27

Love it.

Paul: 00:42:28

Yeah, you won't beat me on rom coms, but.

Marc: 00:42:30

Yeah, well, yeah, I remember watching that when I was a lot younger. I've seen it a few times and I'm. I don't know if it's gonna age well or what is it like?

Paul: 00:42:40

Comedy, action?

Marc: 00:42:41

I can't remember the main.

Darren: 00:42:43

I think he did it.

Marc: 00:42:45

It's half comedy, isn't it?

Darren: 00:42:46

Yeah, it is. It's a comedy.

Marc: 00:42:48

It's like an action comedy.

Paul: 00:42:49

I feel like it's one that I always felt like I was missing because it was in a lethal.

Marc: 00:42:52

I don't want to speculate because I.

Darren: 00:42:53

Might get it wrong, but it's: 1991

Marc: 00:42:55

Yeah. I thought it was early 90s. Yeah.

Darren: 00:42:57

One hour, 39 minutes.

Marc: 00:42:58

Excellent. What's it on?

Darren: 00:42:59

It's on Netflix.

Marc: 00:43:00

Cool. I'm looking forward to that. I hope I like it.

Paul: 00:43:04

I hope you both do. By the sounds of it, our track.

Marc: 00:43:07

Record of this isn't very good, but.

Paul: 00:43:09

It'S a mixed bag.

Darren: 00:43:10

Oh, yeah. Richard E. Grant's in it.

Marc: 00:43:11

Yes.

Darren: 00:43:12

And James Coburn and Sandra. Actually, one of the writers is Steven d', Souza, who wrote on Die Hard, I think.

Paul: 00:43:19

Yeah, that's right.

Marc: 00:43:19

Interesting. There we go. Looking forward to that. So next week's movie is Hudson Hawk. Love it. Okay, thanks for listening, guys. This episode is officially over.

This is Mark, say goodbye.

Darren: 00:43:31

This is Darren saying goodbye for now.

Paul: 00:43:33

I'm sorry if you're right, I would agree with you.

Darren: 00:43:35

That works.